Thanks to Andy on the telephone from Bruce Millars the other day. I am now looking for a simple effects foot pedal, which must have a line in and out.
The tonematch has a 18ft line with it, which is not long enough for this particular venue, as I have to keep turning around and walking back to switch of the effects.

Hi weepete,

If you are looking for a longer cable between a

T1 ToneMatch® Audio Engine and your

Model II Power Stand

you can use a computer networking cable.




I have done this with cables 25' and 50' with no issues.

Here are some notes in the L1® Wiki:

T1 ToneMatch® audio engine - Cables

Great , thanks , but is there a suitable foot pedal.

Hi weepete,

No, sorry, there is no mechanism in the L1® by which you can turn effects on/off with a foot pedal.

Is that what you are trying to do?

I mount my T1® right on my microphone stand and manage to control what needs controlling from there.

What about you? What are you trying to do. Maybe we can find a way to do it.

I think a mic stand is too vulnerable, I just want to click a foot switch to turn it off and on.

Hi weepete,

What are you wanting to turn off and on? ...

A specific effect?
All effects?

Is this for your microphone or something else?

How many channels are you using in your T1®?
What are your inputs?

If you can say a little more about what you are doing now, and what you want to do, maybe we can figure out a way to make that possible.

I just want to use it to turn off the effects for when I speak to the audience.It has been explained to me that I will need to use channel one for the mic and channel two for the effects cut off.

Hi weepete,

Thank you for helping me to understand your requirement.

We have a note (originally from Andy-at-Bose UK) about using a footswitch to toggle effects on and off.

quote:

Originally posted by Andy-at-Bose UK:
First up hook up your vocal mic to, say, Channel 1 on the T1®.

Next take a jack lead and connect it to the PRE AMP out on Channel 1.

Take this lead and run it through either a keyboard style volume pedal or a make or break style footswitch.

Run the signal from the pedal/footswitch into another T1® channel and set this channel up with the chosen vocal effects but make them 100% effect.

Adjust the effected channel volume to get the desired blend of dry vocal to effected vocal.

The pedal/footswitch will determine how much or if any signal will go to channel 2 and therefore whether or not an effect is added.

Reference: Footswitch to Mute Effects

Since you are in the UK, I hope that your Bose dealer can help you to find an appropriate switch.

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Thanks for your patience so far.The problem is that I am trying to find a simple switch on/off switch. The EV5 has been mentioned but it is not a straight on off switch,I hope all the viewers understand what I am trying to achieve.

Hi weepete,

The reason I suggested working with your Bose dealer, is so that you could actually try this in person and get the right cables all at the same time.

I'm pretty sure you want a latching switch. That is one that lock in position either on or off.

I couldn't find a single one that did that (although I'm sure they must exist).

I did however find this device (about $50 USD) that has two switches that can be set to control the same device and you can have one latch and one momentary.

Here are the details.


Boss FS-6



Boss FS-6 Owners Manual



I haven't tried this, but it looks like you could use a long INSERT type cable to the centre connection.


-== this is a Hosa STP 203) (click picture for details) ==-
You probably want a much longer cable and my need to have one made for you, but this shows you the connections.

That is:

Tip-Ring-Sleeve to the middle jack on the FS-6, and single Tip-Sleeve connectors to each:
T1® Channel 1 PreAmp Out
T1® Channel 2 Input

Once again, thanks for your response, I have been informed that this may work ART CoolSwitch A/B-Y Switch.If it does , this is a nice small piece of kit.

Here is a little more detail about the connections.

Tip-Ring-Sleeve to the middle jack on the FS-6, and single Tip-Sleeve connectors to each:
T1® Channel 1 PreAmp Out
T1® Channel 2 Input

Please note:

I have not tested this, and I don't have a way to do that here.

I am a little concerned that in some environments you may pick up some line noise in the cable that runs from the footswitch to the T1®.

Consider that if the cable is 25 feet long, you will have an unshielded signal line running 50 feet in total
* 25 feet from T1® Channel 1 Preamp Out to the Switch and
* 25 feet back from the Switch to the T1® Channel 2 input

A more expensive option would be to get a relay that makes the connection locally and is controlled by a remote footswitch. I personally have midi version of a switch like this, but the whole setup would be really messy. (Power to the midi pedal and other connections)

Weepete,
I would seriously consider using the T1® microphone stand adapter. That way you can have the T1® beside you. If that seems too fragile, how about having a small table (or stool) to put beside you on stage. You could put a bottle of water and the T1® on that table.

Are you connecting the T1® to a Classic, Model I or Model II?

Hi weepete,

quote:

Originally posted by weepete:
Once again, thanks for your response, I have been informed that this may work ART CoolSwitch A/B-Y Switch.If it does , this is a nice small piece of kit.

I found this:
ART CoolSWITCH A/B-Y Box

And I can see that this might work.

I noticed in at least one review someone mentioned audible switching noise.

I hope you have a chance to test your choices live before buying.

But either way, I would still be concerned about being susceptible to line noise running unbalanced connections like this for any great distance. (Greater than 15-25 feet). See my note above.

it is the L1 II.I think a small foot switch would be more discreet.I would prefer to have the tonematch at the rear as i do tend to run about a bit.

it is not so much the distance it is more the ease of use. I doubt thet I would be running it over ten feet anyway.I hope that this has been of some use to other forum members too.

Hi weepete,

Ah... I got zoomed on in the idea that you needed greater than 18 feet because you mentioned that in your lead post.

Please let us know what you end up doing, and how it works for you.

yes, however I may need to have it longer in the future.could some-one from bose maybe confirm that coolswitch may be the answer.

Hi there !

If you check the reviews on ST's link above - you will find the Coolbox gets a mixed reception.
It can be a little nosiy during the actual switching. Also, it seems to work OK sending a signal to 2 different locations, but using it the other way (choosing 2 sources to go to one location) doesn't seem to work - both stay on.

I bought this same pedal about a year ago to use two guitars plugged into it and send either guitar to the PA channel it was plugged into (depending on which one I wanted to play).
Unfortunately it didn't do this (as also noted in the reviews).

I took it back to the shop to get my money back. The shop owner asked rather cheekily if I had put the 9V battery in. I told him "yes". He then proceeded to unscrew the battery compartment lid to see if the battery was there. I told him "YES, the battery is in and YES, I have connected it the correct way". He still continued to open up the box. He opened it up and told me, as if he was trying to be helpful to me, "yes, the battery is there" !
Couldn't believe the cheek of the guy !
Forget that switch box imho.

Bring the T1 around close to you and use the effects mute on the T1 directly. imho it is the only workable and cost-effective and hassle avoiding solution (the fixes are twice as much hassle as the original problems !)

Thanks for that Snakehips. I was rehearsing yesterday and it looks like I will be able to work the T1 in front of me.

When i am famous I will have someone working the T1 for me LOL.