look at my guitar set up

2 L1 4 subs

Hi LoreWeaveR,

Thanks for the pictures.

Are you running 2 L1™s and 4 B1s for your Guitar? Stereo? What else is in the signal chain?

hi ST
two l1 and 4 b1 only for my guitar

signal chain

guitar - pod xt live - l1 2 b1 left
- l1 2 b1 right

this because i use a lot of extra panning stereo fx,
last week i've tried

guitar - pod xt live(only pre). advance tube power amp - marshall 4 x 12
from the line of the power amp sgnal routing to tc electronics g force in l1 left and l1 right.
finnaly 2 421 in front of the cab inside the l1s
......
a wall of sound!!!!!!!!

Francesco Salvadeo

Hi Francesco,

I bet you would enjoy reading List your rig in the Guitars Forum.


also

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finnaly 2 421 in front of the cab inside the l1s

what is

2 421 in front of the cab inside the l1s

421 is a sennhiser dynamic mic i put 2 mic in front the cab one for l channel and one for r .
then the mic inside the l1 ad dry sgnal and i mIx this channelS whit the 2 channelS from the g-force whit the remotes of the l1s

Francesco Salvadeo

Bose should really consider another color for the speaker part of the L1's.

They are missing out on great advertising.

I've seen so many stage set ups where the L1's just blend into the background because of the dark color. While that is part of the beauty of them, that they are unobtrusive, even in my garage the first time someone comes in and hears us play at practice they look around the whole time trying to figure out where the sound is coming from.

That's funny you should say that, Ric. At our last gig, a young musician came up to the stage during break to tell me how amazed he was at the sound. He had heard about the L1 and started asking a bunch of questions. I started explaining the system to him and pointing out the various components. When I got to the cylindrical radiator, he said "wow, I didn't even see those! I thought all the sound was coming from there" and he pointed to the B1's scattered around the stage. We had 4 full systems, and he didn't even notice them.

Francesco

Thanks for the post. That's fascinating. I know for a fact that a double-B1 system can get as loud as a 100w stack and probably sound way larger, like a much bigger speaker. And I know that the 4B1 system gives you all that deep LF you get standing next to a stack. Are you using a flat preset for guitar? Are you singing thru the L1 also (Can't do that with a 4x12 and sound like a real human being).

I've had so many conversations with guitar players about how amps look onstage; the fashion part of electric guitar; and most are so totally bought into the look of traditional amps that even if something (like the L1) sounded better, they wouldn't perceive it as such because of the look. Like, one part of the brain says "sounds better" and the other part says "but not if it looks like that". Know what I mean? Also, where do you play? Clubs? Concerts?

So, as a heavy-metal guitar player, you're making a big break with tradition here (bravo). I'd love to hear how you arrived at this setup, what problems it solved for you, what kind of reservations you had (I know you had a bunch at the start), what kind of pressure you got from your bandmates when it showed up onstage and how you like it (does it get you what you want to hear). I know for a fact that the L1 makes a big huge image for metal and crunch. It just doesn't look like it should, although I'm slowly (being affected by my own history with amplified music culture) beginning to think it really does look like it should, actually better than anything.

hi Cliff,
yes i use oo preset when i play with the pod xt live and the out of pod xt set to bose L1, and if is necessary i sing inside but i prefer no for a best gig :-)
i like the image on stage of l1 usually i put the 4 subs in the middle of the 2 l1 and for me sems powerful and impressive.. i think i'll put 2 chains around the l1 so will be really METAL!!!

i know is strange i'm a metal player but i play with the l1...
really i've notice of the l1 in the line 6 website a lot of time ago.... i think was fall 2004, and i loved it from this moment .
i start to work for Bose february 2005 hopin' can see the l1, then i meet Guy at Bose Europe and Marco at Bose Europe.... i tried it and i love it much more.....

i think in the next 5 years will be the revolution of the live music.

the only problem for me was recording in the studio with mics close and far the system obtainig a powerful but airful sound.
i'm sorry but i dont have the pictures.

but if you contact Guy, he have the pictures and the first single of my band, with guitar and basses recorded with the system with mics....

keep in touch

Francesco Salvadeo

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most are so totally bought into the look of traditional amps that even if something (like the L1) sounded better, they wouldn't perceive it as such because of the look.

Cliff, you guys just need to put a glowing 12AX7 tube in there somewhere - preferably visible through the grill. Then you'd sell millions of 'em to guitarist. The tube doesn't even need to be hooked up to anything... we just need to know its there so we can be hypnotized by its soft warm glow.

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Originally posted by gittar-jonz:
... The tube doesn't even need to be hooked up to anything... we just need to know its there so we can be hypnotized by its soft warm glow.

Rock on, Francesco. I think you're on the leading edge of metal.

In a way, the L1 is like the evolution in heavy metal automobiles, definitely a form of rock and roll:

A "performance car" used to be a giant churning steel assembly that blew raw flaming gasoline out the back at 125dB, full-bandwidth. Kind of like a double 4x12 100w stack, or a Tyrannosaurus Rex for that matter. Ever since "Fast and Furious", it's now carbon fiber, titanium and small supertuned precision engines that do the same thing, and sound like F1 cars. Performance always thrills but methods to get there change.

Yesterday, we heard a double-guitar rock and roll quartet ("Possum Club", the basic rhythm section for the Linemen) play undeniable authentic-toned electric guitar music for a demo of the new L1/II system. Of course, guitar tone is on the finger tips of these (and any) great players (Cliff Goodwin and Tony Sarno), but it was nothing less than the sound we have all loved ever since Leo Fender went into the business. It's music's new "Fast and Furious".

Yeah. And it was loud. And clear. You never get that with rock nowadays. It always has to be STUPID loud.

But it wasn't. It was loud. And clear. And graceful. Like what got us all hooked to begin with.

Ken

wow, that's really nice... I never thought of using Bose as actual stage gear



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