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This is the story, might be a little different than the usual here.
We are a Southern Gospel Trio, a female tenor, male lead, and male bass vocals. We use an iPod for our tracks.
I spoke with the Bose people about this, they said 1 system with the bass package would do us just fine. We use SM-58 mics and an SM-81 for the bass vocalist.
There is nowhere near to demo this. Can I get your thoughts on this, maybe help us with our decisions?
Biggest venue would be 600 people. Most the time a church or a school, one in a while outside.

Thanks!
 
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They still have a "Try it for x-days" offer right ?
DO IT.

I think the system is made for you.

ultra simple, ez to set up/ take down.

the 3 of you and all your equip can drive to a gig in a honda civic with room to spare.
 
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But I dont have a Honda Civic. Big Grin

Think I will. Still would like to hear more input if anyone has it.

Thanks FocusPlayer.
 
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Hey opusthe2nd,

A great place to start learning about what customers have to say (good and bad) is the "User Review" section of the forum. Click here to get there.

Steve

PS Yes, there is still a 45-day trial period. That should give you plenty of time to try, learn and hopefully love the system. Go for it!
 
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Originally posted by opusthe2nd:
There is nowhere near to demo this. Can I get your thoughts on this, maybe help us with our decisions?


Hi opusthe2nd,
Where are you located?

...Mark
 
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Hey Steve,

Yes, I have read them. I didnt find anyone doing it like we do, with tracks and 3 vocals. Most have a guitars, keyboards or whatnot. Wasnt sure if it would even make a difference or not.
I do want to try it but I would feel pretty committed if I got it to try....even though I guess I can return it if it doesnt 'float my boat'. There is a handful of others around here that are interested too. No one wants to be the guinea pig though. Looks like I will be it. *;o)
 
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Mark,

Montana. McDonalds is 120 miles from here....that should give you an idea of whats around.
 
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Hi opusthe2nd,

It reads like you will be setting up something like this (well simpler because you have three instead of four vocalists). You can imagine using your iPod where I've shown the CD Player.


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Originally posted by opusthe2nd:

Montana. McDonalds is 120 miles from here....


It must be nice to be closer to Heaven than to McDonald's
 
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Speaking with the Bose people, they said with SM-58 mic's, we shouldnt need a mixer. Granted 1 vocal will have to just have volume control and that is all.

Oldqhm,

It IS!!!
 
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Hi opusthe2nd,

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Speaking with the Bose people, they said with SM-58 mic's, we shouldnt need a mixer. Granted 1 vocal will have to just have volume control and that is all.


There *is* a way to get two dynamic mics like the SM58 into a single input. It involves using a "Y" cable (two female XLR to single male XLR) and running that to Channel 1 or 2. I've done this for instrument microphones but not for vocals. Here's some a discussion about using 2 58s with a y cable .

It might work okay for you if the two vocalists using the SM58's sing at similar volumes and approach the microphones the same way. The other microphone would run to the other XLR input - Channel 1 or 2.

If someone was thinking of using an XLR to 1/4" adapter to run into Channel 3 or 4, I think you there might be a problem. Channels 3 and 4 are intended for line-level inputs and the microphone may not have enough output to drive it.

A mixer that could get the job done would probably cost somewhere around $100 and it would give you the ability to set the volumes (and some tone adjustments) for the microphones separately.
 
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ST,

Ok, so it doesnt seem to be a big deal. We could easily get a mixer and go that route. That looks like it would probably be the best route to go I would think.
We could put the phantom mic on 1 and then run the other 2 mics off the mixer, on 2, then run the iPod off of 3 or 4? Or would we want to then run all mics off the mixer and then do what with the iPod.
 
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ST,

I just noticed all your sketches for diff setups. I also see Southern Gospel is on that list. Where can I get a list of quartets that are using this system? Might even be people I know. Would sure like to visit with them and see how it is working for them.
 
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Hi opusthe2nd,

Others might approach this differently, but given
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We are a Southern Gospel Trio, a female tenor, male lead, and male bass vocals. We use an iPod for our tracks.


I would run the male lead into Channel 1 or 2 and then experiment with the mixer and the other inputs to see which way gives you the kind of overall control works best for you.

The preamplifiers in Channels 1 and 2 are very nice, and so I always run lead vocals into one of those channels if possible. The rest is not critical. Maybe run the female tenor into Channel 2 and the male bass and the iPod into the mixer.

Male Lead -> Channel 1
Female Tenor -> Channel 2
Male Bass -> Mixer -> Channel 3 or 4
iPod -> Mixer - Channel 3 or 4
 
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If we run the male bass into the mixer and then to channel 3 or 4, that how will phantom power work then? Do I use the phantom from the batteries on the mic or on the Bose?

Mind you, this is all a crash course for me. We have relied on others for sound....and it has been hurting us. This is 1 reason we are wanting to do this.
 
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Hi opusthe2nd,

I think our messages crossed paths in the Internet ether.

I did a search on the forum for "southern gospel". Take a look.

I'm going to forward this (below) to some of the -at-Bose folks to see if they have some contacts.


quote:
Originally posted by opusthe2nd:
ST,

I just noticed all your sketches for diff setups. I also see Southern Gospel is on that list. Where can I get a list of quartets that are using this system? Might even be people I know. Would sure like to visit with them and see how it is working for them.
 
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And yet another thought:

We do have a Tascam PortaStudio 424. Would that suffice for a mixer? At least use it til we can scrape up some more cash for a diff one.

Thanks for all the help, hope I'm not being a bother....yet. *;o)
 
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Hi opusthe2nd,

Went to
http://homerecording.com/tas424.html

and found the specs
http://homerecording.com/tas424specs.html

It looks like there are enough inputs and outputs to make all the connections. The main outputs appear to be RCA connectors so you'll need some simple
RCA-female to 1/4" Male adapters.

You'd have to try it out to see how it sounds.
 
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If we run the male bass into the mixer and then to channel 3 or 4, that how will phantom power work then? Do I use the phantom from the batteries on the mic or on the Bose?


For this, you'd need to have phantom power available from the mixer.

If the mixer (or PortaStudio) doesn't supply phantom power, I guess you're looking at a something like this:

Male Lead -> Channel 1
Male Bass -> Channel 2

Female Tenor -> Mixer -> Channel 3 or 4
iPod -> Mixer - Channel 3 or 4
 
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Great....got lots of info today. We'll go over this and get hold of Bose and give it a shot.

Thanks once again!

Pete
 
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