Well, I had a chance to swing by my local Guitar Center this week and check out the system. A couple obeservations - GC only had one column set up (in a prominent location, though) so I didn't have a chance to hear what the system sounds like with the bass cabs. After hooking up a guitar and mic, the sales person basically left me on my own to "play" with it. I kinda liked having the freedom to experiment.

I was amazed that I could actually take a microphone, pointed at the speaker on axis, and not encounter feedback until I was roughly 5 inches from the column. That amazed me! The sound was very natural.

Now, the BIG question I have is, are these available in white or can they be painted without degrading the sound? Even though the columns are not nearly as visible as most conventional speaker cabinets, black is still a bit "obvious" in my church's sanctuary where everything is shades of white.

Thanks,

Craig

[This message was edited by CDouglas on Mon January 05 2004 at 08:53 AM.]

OOPS: I might have accidentally erased this post (no idea how ), please repost.

I'll try to restore it from memory:
The post was looking into a church application, was generally very happy with the sound but was asking for a white version, since black would not fit well with the current color scheme.

Here is the answer

So far black is the only color available
They are not easy to paint, because the surfaces have been specifically treated not to take any smudges easily.
The Cylindrical Radiator(tm) loudspeakers are powder coated Aluminum. I'll try to come up with a recommendation for a particular pain that will stick to that. Also the grilles would have to be taken off (to avoid getting paint on the drivers), before painting. The power stand is poly propylene which is very hard to paint.
In summary, I can be done but it requires a non-trivial amount of work.
The unit will also operate nicely behind an acoustically transparent curtain. If you don't shine any light directly on it, the black systems won't be visible even if the curtain is very thin and white.

Thanks, Hilmar.

I figured any paint work would require taking the grille's off, so I'm OK with that. Even being able to paint the grille would be an improvement in our situation. I was thinking a spray paint like something from Rustoleum might work. I'll be anxious to hear what you find. We can probably live with black but I'm sure the preference would be white.

Craig

Why not make some sleeves out of acoustically transparent cloth?

Dear Mr Guitar Tarzan

You're on to something profound here. Normal polyester "double knit" cloth is available in an endless variety of colors and patterns. It passes pretty much the entire range of sound and is often used as grille cloth by all manufacturers. A "sleeve" can be easily made by anyone with a normal sewing machine, simply by doubling up the fabric and sewing a seam up the long way, topping it off too. So, make the seam, turn the sleeve inside out and you have your color-of-choice stretch-fit slipcover disguise for your system.

This is big. This is huge. You're a genius. I smell the first of many third party accessories for our system. Imagine paisley Cylindrical Radiators! How about red and white spiral stripes for barbershop quartets? My brain will explode now, the possibilities are so infinite. Owww...

Actually, removable covers for the tower and base components would be useful not only for cosmetic purposes, but would be very handy at outdoor gigs to keep a fair amount of dirt off the unit, and in more cramped quarters would provide excellent protection against nicks and scratches from an errant guitar headstock or flying drumstick or clumsily-weilded cable (those 1/4" or XLR jacks are murder in careless hands!)

And finally it could provide a critical last line of defense against the bane of all gear: the Tipsy Patron and the Sloshing Beer Mug of Doom.

Yup, I proclaim guitarzan's fabric cover idea to be not quite as technologically cool as the idea of a cylindrical radiator loudspeaker, but equally useful. Going slumming? Cover up your investment, then toss the cover in the wash when you get home!

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Hourglass http://www.hourglassband.com

Oh man... Cliff, you just said a baaad thing. My band is WAY too easily amused by things like that, AND we have a discount fabric store nearby that sells all sorts of wacky patterns cheap.

Maybe I'll go into business myself!

What The...?
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Lee,Clark,
The last three gigs I played people either put their
wine glasses on the b1's or hung onto the L1's like they were light post! I'm thinking about putting a reverse liabilty clause in the contract! AL....

Sonic Sleeve, the lunchbox.

There's no end to this.

Don't use cotton (attenuates the high end)

My wife thinks I'm a complete nutcase for wanting to hang an african mask on the L1, and somehow prop my digeridu (SP?) and large rainstick up next to it. She also thought I was bonkers for bringing up the possibility of sewing my L1 a "dress" such as is being described here, and my idea of buying one of those 6' tall, very thin, carved giraffe decorations went over like a concrete balloon, too.

She just doesn't "get" my "art!"

Yours,
Amado

well i may as wel join in. i took one of those little 1 watt marshall replicas and set it a top my bose. told everyone i had one of the new 750 watt marshalls that designed specifcally with bose. of course i told them that the story was a farce. however i had taken the line out from the little marshall and had it plugged in to the ps1....and with some eq, most initially believed the story. guess we will have to open a separate topic or forum for bose decor :-)

Let them laugh Amado. Fools. They know nothing. This is all inspired thought here. Remember: they laughted at Crazy Eddy too.

I forgot to tell you guys that I patented the CR condom before I posted. You can all send a $1.00 license fee to Cliff-at-Bose and when the pot hits $2K, Cliff can send me a PAS.

Various bandmates and other local musicians who've seen our PAS's have suggested:

• Putting Nerf basketball hoops on top
  
• decorating them with tissue paper like Maypoles
  
• Putting papier mache animal heads on the tops
  
• Making a "sock" for each L1 as described by Cliff, each of which is one of the colors of our logo
  

My second band even has a song that contains the line: "God bless this fuzzy pole." Which has led to the desire to put hot pink fake fur on our L1's.

I am not making this up!

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Hey, I like the decorating ideas however, my painting idea goes like thIS!
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[Hilmar added a new line to get the 'D' in the right spot]
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[This message was edited by Hilmar-at-Bose on Wed January 07 2004 at 04:31 PM.]

I may be showing signs of PAS overexposure (after just coming in last night from 2 very exciting introduction shows of the product in Europe), but I awoke this morning with a recollection of dreaming about a space-aged looking metallic/silver PAS. All I can tell you is that it looked very cool.

I've been working with this man. This is the hardest working man in showbis. I didn't know he had time to grew a beard....

Hey Vic!

Good to "see" you, man.

(Vic is the superb saxaphonist that worked with us this week in Amsterdam, where we did a sneak preview of the system for some musicians. I don't think it is an exaggeration to say that we lit a small but very, very, hot fire. I will post about the gig when I get a few photos together.)

Vic, can you post about your impressions using the system this week? I know that everyone here at the forum would value your impressions.

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Originally posted by Vic from holland:

I've been working with this man. This is the hardest working man in showbis. I didn't know he had time to grew a beard....

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Haha. Thanks Vic. Great working with you out there. It's too bad I didn't get to see more of your interesting country.

I was however reassurred that musicians everywhere in the world are aware of the problems that the product addresses. It would be great if you tell others about your experiences.

Hi there you guys. Lets see if I can give you some of my reflections on the system.

Well, I can say that it was one of the best experiences I ever had on a stage.
At first (rehearsals) it was very confront ting. I was able to hear all of my mistakes. I was intimidated by it. But soon I could enjoy my self. To be able to hear all of the band members clearly was something that didn’t happen often before.

There was no need anymore to put in extra effort (force) to hear my self. All of that energy I could use focusing myself on playing. Therefore I played better and even more, I enjoyed making music on stage again. Normally if we go out to some place to do a gig there are always these questions: Will there be a monitor system? Is there an engineer who knows about music? Will he kill the gig? Will people here me at all? Do they have beer?
All of those things what seem to happen that makes you sad about playing life music suddenly disappeared. And yes, they had bear……….afterwards!

To be sure, afterwards I asked some of my friends in the public if they could here me. They also seemed to enjoy the system. They told me that every thing had sounded crystal.

This system is very unforgiving. If you play to loud, everybody will tell you. If you try to fake your self through a part, they will notice! It forces you to study to become a (good) life musician (again). Our band (The Lady shavers) was even in to some real dynamics stuff. I mean that’s what music is all about……
So often it happens on a gig with normal gear, it seems you work your way trough the concert to a certain level (in other to hear your self) that you can’t play any louder. No dynamics anymore, and an other night of ear bleedings.

Well, these days are over? No… And that is the only bad thing about this system. It is not available in Europe yet. Huh? Yes!!!!!!!! So you guys, it time for you to get back here instantly and bring me this device. I mean we need just five of them.

Anyway, thanks again for making it possible to be the first band in Europe to work with this gear. And ofcorse to work with this guy named Goodsy who helped us to arrange the gig in order to highlight all the benefits of this amazing equipment. Just tell him to leave his whip at home if he joins you when you bring us the stuff.

Thanks!

Wiechert. (But you can call me Vic, and don’t bother about a good pronunciation)