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okay - during some settings, i'm using the l1 in a power trio setting - lotsa of new rock, experimental stuff - and ocassionally i need a bit more power - so i figure i lose a bit of clarity/tone pushing the volume so i've starting experimenting with the big no no :STEREO.

I know this diminishes the cocktail party effect - but it's loud rock stuff with loops and such - so i'm finding that i can get the volume i want w/o losing the tone by running stereo out of my pod xtlive. I know - self indulgent - the ping pong delays, leslies, auto panning - i've read a;; the posts but the thing is, mt tone holds up a bit better, it does give me a bit of desirable "smear" - the wall of sound - that helps fill out the 3 piece so the guitar is not so "right from exactly there". I know - the audience may lose some localization -and for a precious few, they will have some small sense of the panning stuff. Overall, especially for the band and those bearest the front and center, it is very pleasing.

So yes - a trade off of sorts but it helps get a bit more headroom and has "easter eggs" for people in certain places. I've laid in loops and checked for comb filtering as i walk about but in my setting, it seems to be not so noticable. I'll give you a gig tested review later this week, My gut response is "yes, not ideal l1 application but very promising in some ways and certainly light years beyond the old approach!"

Pastor B.
 
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Yo Pastor B.

I've lived and loved the seductive stereo spread. Go wide dude! Enjoy.
 
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okay - just got back from a 90 min rehearsal - and one song the entire time (working on vocal arrangements!)

I ran stereo for the final 25 mins - nice - more info after tomorrow nights full set. liking what i'm getting so far though!
 
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I have been experimenting with this a little lately. Our horn section (4 pieces, 2 trumpets, tenor & bari sax) is submixed through a mixer into one L1 out to the right of the stage. We have another L1 sitting in the middle of the stage behind the left side of the horn section that acts as kind of a mid-stage monitor. I am able to send any combination of signals from my board to either L1. What I have found is that on one side I can put a dry signal and the other a very wet or delayed signal from my effetcs unit (also throuugh the board) and get a real fat horn section sound with a stereo delay. I'm sure with some experimenting you can apply this to about any voice or instrument with an effects unit and multiple L1's. Pretty cool stuff!


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I have never assumed that the 'benefits', or 'special effects', which can be done with stereo - or multichannel - speakers all disappear because one is using the L1 System.

With conventional speakers, as "PA" (power amplification) systems, one typically uses multiple separated speakers to provide as uniform of coverage as feasible -- and those are rarely stereo because that actually tends to hinder that desired "uniform coverage".

A single L1 provides that uniform coverage, so there is no need for multiple separated speakers.

That does not negate the benefits of "multi-channel" source material coming from multiple separated speakers -- e.g.: stereo L & R from two separate L1 Systems. DJ's have been proving this for a few years, now. In fact, the L1 generally will do a much better job of distributing those interesting effects to a larger portion of the audience.

Because that's what the L1 does: provide a wide, uniform, pristine, and amplified distribution of it's input signal(s).

So, any effects which one might conceive of, using multiple, physically-separated sound sources, is likely to sound better, for a larger group of listeners, and with a lot less effort, than any other amplified systems I know of today. Particularly for non-custom-installed systems.

The "guidance" perhaps is not so much "one instrument/voice into only one L1" as it might more accurately be:

"one unique sound source into one L1"

Stereo? Use two L1's.
5.1 theater sound? Use 5 or 6 L1's (the 6th being an extended bass package, of course!), and one might be able to get that "home theater" effect for an entire school gymnasium!
 
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Exactly! Right on Dan. One speaker for one source. That's the one-for-one approach that the L1 allows musicians (and audience members) to experience.

Thanks for summing it up so well.

Steve
 
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