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  • Amp Modeller ... lounge
    Some of us (Guitar Players) will never give up our tubes but you can get a good overview of the several of the alternatives in ASAT's lounge.
  • Get your Line6 patches at vettaville.nl
    The people-at-Bose have created several patches for the special PS-1 output mode of the Line6 gear. This output mode was designed for the Bose System.

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Feedback
Here are some notes about feedback. Rather than sending you following links, I've just put things that seemed relevant below.


From the Bose Support Site
My vocal microphone keeps encountering feedback. Is there anything I can do to stop it?

  • Orient the microphone so that it is not pointing directly at your Cylindrical Radiator™ loudspeaker. It’s best when your system is not directly behind you- give greater than 5 feet distance between you and your system.
  • Try using a “close-miking” technique to increase the gain at the microphone and to reduce unwanted stage sound.
  • Use the HIGH tone control knob for the microphone channel carefully. Feedback could occur when this is set too high.
  • Upgrade your power stand to newer software that offer a high gain preset. see: Software Upgrading (This covers firmware update and Version 2.0 Presets)
  • If using a vocal effects processor, make sure that it is not contributing to the feedback problem.
  • If stand -mounting a directional microphone, tilt the microphone up ten or twenty degrees off the horizon so that it is less sensitive to direct sound from the speakers.
  • Try a different microphone such as a directional mic. Hypercardioid microphones work well with the system.



Here's a sketch of setting up a microphone on stand.


Other general notes:
  • All players should be playing / singing through the Bose System closest to them
  • Every doubling of distance between the microphone and the singer reduces gain-before-feedback by a factor of 4. The difference between 1/2 inch and an inch can be significant.
  • Wherever possible "acoustic" instruments should use pickups instead of microphones.
    This is important because many players find it a struggle to keep a consistant and close distance between the microphone and their instrument. Also, an instrument can be a source of feedback as it resonates with the amplified sound.
  • Another (low prority) design guide-line could be to keep open mics as far apart as possible. Neighboring systems with open mics can mututally decrease gain-before-feedback


Here are more notes from shure.com
Handling the Microphone
Seems like a pretty natural thing, doesn't it? But how your vocalists handle the mic has a major effect on the resulting sound. It may look great, but your tech team won't get the sound they want when your soloist holds a microphone an arm's length from her mouth.

Why?

The first reason is the inverse square law. If you hold your mic a half-inch from your lips it receives a given amount of sound energy from your voice. Move it twice as far-one inch-and it receives one-fourth as much energy. That extra half -inch takes away three-quarters of the efficiency of your sound system. While good mic technique involves "working" the microphone, singers that fully extend their arms when reaching for that climax, are usually doing it for dramatic effect. Small changes in distance from the mouth can result in very dramatic changes in sound level.

Second: When you move the mic away from your lips, you must turn up the microphone level at the mixer to be heard, and more unwanted sound enters the mic. When sound from a monitor speaker enters the mic, it instantly becomes the earsplitting screech we know as feedback. Keeping the mic close to your mouth minimizes feedback.

See the whole article: Miking Live Vocals


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Introducing Performers to the Bose System

Here's how I introduce new players to the system. I wrote this to describe what I do for festival situations and open stages. I hope you find some ideas that work for other situations too.
edit: This post started as a reply to Ron in About to get my first 2...




If the performers are used to trusting the soundman, that is: they just want to walk in, plug in, and play... you may have a little difficulty getting them to take the reins (control the remote).

If they are used to trusting *you* then things should go smoothly.

To be prepared for people who just want to walk in and play the old way... Have a conventional mixer wired up with mains out running to your two** systems (channels 3/4). You might want to do this for line-level instruments anyway.
** Ron, for whom I originally wrote this was contemplating 2 Systems.

That's your backup plan. BUT

This is what I do with open stage situations with guest artists. It sounds like it would take awhile, but really we're talking just a couple of minutes.

I setup the Bose systems as though there was no mixer. That is:
- microphones into channels 1/2 on each system
- DI's to the remaining channels 3/4 open on each system.
- Remotes wired and attached to the mic stands

Soundcheck:
1. Introducing Performers to the System
But before getting into a lot of detail, I just get the gain staging setup in the conventional way. (all volume controls on the remote at zero). This is the time to set the presets for people who have brought their own mics. While I'm doing that I'll point out that all the sound is coming from the Bose systems and that there will be no need for monitors or a separate house mix. Everyone: The performers and the audience will be listening to the same sound source.

2. How does this thing work?
Time for a quick tutorial about feedback, covering mic angle, positioning and how resiliant the system to feedback as long as you don't leave an open mic pointing directly at the L1.

3. Bring on the sound (one unit at a time)
Turn up the master to just under 1/2 way and get the performers to turn up the individual channels. Encouragage them - this is *you* in control of *your* sound. Get them to try the other tone controls, and let them get used to the buffered response to the controls. Assure them that what they hear is what is being heard in the house.

If there are concerns - "it seems dry" reassure them that when we bring up the master volumes, they will hear all the natural reverb from the room as it responds to them at performance levels.

4. Bring on the feedback
With the master volumes at a relatively low level (under 1/2)
I warn the performers and then I'll actually induce some feedback by repositioning a microphone (pointing it at the L1). Then we make it go away by tipping the mic back to a better angle (typically upwards). I hand someone a mic and say "here, you try it." You can also show them that if they leave the system in feedback mode, the system will mute it in a few seconds.

Okay - we've tested the worst case scenario and know how to deal with it.

5. Bring up the volume
Okay: we've got the balance between the players and instruments sorted out, and the performers are comfortable with setting their individual levels in the mix. It's time to bring up the master volumes to suit the house.

Give the performers a chance to do their soundcheck song(s) and adjust as necessary.

6. On with the show!
If all went well up to this point - you're good to go.

7. Plan Backup
If someone just doesn't want to deal with it ("what are they paying *you* for?" (mister sound-guy)) then just plug the mics into the mixer, set the levels and go for it the slightly more conventional way).


It takes only a few minutes to go through the whole procedure and I've found that it's well worth it. But if you try to skip any of the steps, you could have an unhappy performer on your hands.

Successful outcome report
I recently worked with a true road warrior who immediately picked up on the system. He then did his performance without a hitch. read about it here...


This was originally posted
About to get my first 2...
Introducing Performers

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To be prepared for people who just want to walk in and play the old way... Have a conventional mixer wired up with mains out running to your two systems (channels 3/4).


I'm sorry, ST, but I'm suffering from a nasty summer cold, and between the lack of sleep and the cold remedies, my brain is not very sharp today.

The rest of your contribution made perfect sense (and, as you know, is very applicable to me), but I got lost in the above quote.

Can you expand a bit on that for me, please? What two systems are we talking about?

TIA.

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Hi Mike,

When I posted this earlier this morning I had a nagging feeling that I had missed something and went off to find the original discussion. Couldn't find it. But I have now.
About to get my first 2...

This was started by "Ron", and so the two systems were ... his two systems. Sorry about that. I've edited the my post now.

Thanks for spotting that.

Get well soon.

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Terminology
Like many others, this community is developing its own lexicon. Look for a few terms and quick references here.

Terminology
hey st check this out...For those of you who couldn't be here for our live "pickup shootout", we invite you to check out some brief videos of Saturday's performance.

The concert was recorded direct to DV with the camera's on-board mic. Maury & Tim played all the pickups through a Bose PA System with no effects and only very minimal EQ. Depending on your internet connection and your PC's speakers, you may find these comparisons a little hard to judge.

We hope to put these on a DVD very soon for those of you who would like to get a better look (and listen). If you have any questions or comments, please consider sharing your thoughts with us ... it's our goal to get you the most information possible on these pickups.
I found this on the martin web site....
 
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Hi Howard,

I went hunting around on the http://martinguitar.com web site. Couldn't find this pickup shootout.

If you can find it again, a great place for this information and the link would be in the
Guitar Forum.

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What are Out of Phase Overheads?
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Originally posted by Cliff-at-Bose: in Out of Phase Overheads
These are not "overheads" but 57's placed below the cymbals and above the top heads of a small kit. The mics are wired out of phase, basically 2 and 3 reversed on an XLR. There's lots written about this on our forum. But the basic idea is that the pair will cancel onstage bass but pick up local instruments on the kit, in an effort to reduce rebroadcasting onstage bass from the drum mics. This way we get a stronger signal than typical overheads and cleaner bass onstage. To "mix" these, just move the mics closer to the instrument you want to emphasize. Typical setup is on either side of the snare facing the snare. Snare is everywhere and there is no need to put a mic directly on it. It's actually pretty easy to set up and adjust, moving the mics around for a good kit mix. With 3 mics and only 2 inputs on the PS1, we get a really nice amplified sound for our shows. I listened to the output of the pair recently (multitrack recordings of a recent show) and the cancelling thing really works great. Give it a try.



What is Passively-Out-Of Phase?
See this discussion about
Wiring two SM 75s with a Y cord for Drums.
This one has it all - theory, analogy, pictures and testimonials.

Here's a juicy excerpt
quote:
Originally posted by Hilmar-at-Bose:
Here's the nerds view Smile
Wiring the the two mics out of phase creates essentially a "dipole". Everything that is in the middle (i.e. equal distance) between the two microphones will get equally but out-of-phase so it cancels when the two microphone signals are summed together. In essence it creates a "blind spot" for the microphones for whatever is right in the middle plane. For the drums, that's mainly the kick (as Larry pointed out) and also the drummer (when he/she is hemming and hawing, squeaking with the chair, yelling about or in general having a grand old time).
Another nice trick is to place the L1 that gets the mic signal somewhere the middle plane of the microphones. This drastically reduces potential for feedback and unwanted regeneration.
Sound sources that are significantly closer to any one of the microphones are not much affected by the whole procedure.

Hilmar


See it all: Wiring two SM 75s with a Y cord

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The wiring from a mixer post you made today I think would fit here.

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Connections to Channels 1 and 2 on the PS1® Power Stand
Wondering what cables you can use with those inputs on Channels 1 and 2? Here is a summary.

Connections from a Mixer

XLR to XLR (balanced to balanced) should be fine.
Things you can do if the signal is too hot (you are having trouble with the input clipping on the Bose System)...
- check to see if there is a 'pad' built-in on the mixer (most Mackie mixers have this on the panel beside the XLR outs)
- turn down the main outs on the mixer
- use a 20 dB pad (attenuator) between the mixer and the Bose System.


¼" Tip-Ring to ¼" Tip-Ring (unbalanced to unbalanced) is fine:
You could have difficulty if you are running long lines (and losing signal or picking up noise).
If you are, consider using shorter cable runs, or running an balanced line. To do this you can use a short unbalanced cable to a DI (to convert from unbalanced to balanced) and run from there: XLR to XLR (balanced to balanced) to the Bose System.

XLR (balanced) to ¼" Tip-Ring-Sleeve (balanced) doesn't do much for you.
This is because the ¼" input on the Bose System is Tip-Ring unbalanced anyway.



Other connection options - typically unrelated to a mixer

¼" Tip-Ring-Sleeve balanced to XLR balanced Specialized instrument cable (probably Guitar)
This is probably a specialty cable that was supplied with the instrument. It is intended for a microphone input on a mixer. This should work fine with the Bose System.

Female XLR to ¼" Tip-Ring (microphone adapter)
This will probably not work very well. Sometimes you see these being used for home karaoke machines. These are not suitable for professional use.
The ¼" input was designed for high impedance line-level inputs and may not provide enough gain for a microphone which is probably low impedance.

¼" Tip-Ring (unbalanced) to XLR (balanced) instrument adapter
This may not work particularly well.
You are probably running an impedance mismatch (high impedance from the instrument to low impedance balanced XLR).

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Connections for Insert Points on the PS1

You would use this kind of cable for a connecting an effects unit using the Serial Connection method.


Here's an excerpt for the PS1 Power Stand manual.

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Zipper sound, latency, and the R1 Remote
...there are two design related issues that come into play here. The reason why nearly nobody knows about is, is that rarely ever anyone notices it.

1) The remote has a certain amount of latency. It takes a moment from the time you turn a knob until the setting actually takes effect. The exact time depends on the circumstances, but it's always less than one tenth of a second which is indeed barely (if at all) noticable.

2) The Channel 1 and 2 Volume controls produce a very slight "zipper" noise when they change between different volume setting. That noise does not affect the tone controls or the master volume. The technical reasons for that are complicated, but I'm happy to explain it, if someone is interested.
Anyway, the "zipper" noise only occurs when you actually operate the control, so it doesn't occur while playing unless you play and adjust at the same time. If you need to do that (e.g. for a fade-out) and the zipper is audible and objectionable, you could maybe use the volume control on your instrument or the master volume on the remote.

Again, most people never notice these issues in the first place and if they do, it's rarely a problem of any sort.

Hope that helps
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A1 PackLite™
Kyle-at-Bose Introduces the A1
The Solution

We designed an amplifier, perfectly matched for driving two additional B1 bass modules. It doesn’t look or feel like and amplifier. In fact, it is currently the lightest pro audio power amplifier on the market today.

Introducing the model A1 PackLite™ power amplifier.



Recently added to the main site - featuring Kyle Sullivan (Kyle-at-Bose)

Packlite™ video
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Hilmar's notes about the A1
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Originally posted by Hilmar-at-Bose:
Oh dear, I just stumbled across this thread. We are currently working full throttle to get the A1 on the store shelves and the last few weeks in a product development cycle are always a little hectic.

I’m certainly happy to take on all questions and comments so far, but I may have to do it in multiple installs. Feel free to ping me if I’m slacking off (or if I bore everyone out of their mind).

Let’s start with some technical stuff (philosophy will be in the next installment)

1) Crossover
If there is no B1 and nothing connected to the Bass Line Out. The L1 sees frequencies from 110Hz up. Feeding it anything lower, doesn’t make sense, since it couldn’t produce any acoustic output and if would rip the drivers to shreds.

In any other case the L1 sees signals only from 180Hz up. There is no other variation in frequency or gain for the L1 no matter what else happens

2) Bass Line Out and B1 behavior
This is based on the design goal that “You should always sound the same; no matter how much Bass stuff is attached” I can try to explain my view of why this is a good design goal (of which you may disagree) but let’s look at the actual behavior first.

Without Bass Line out
1xB1: 40Hz-180Hz, B1 specific EQ, some nominal gain that we call 0dB
2xB1: 40Hz-180Hz, B1 specific EQ, -6dB as compared to nominal

With Bass Line Out
0xB1: 40-180 Hz, flat, roughly the same gain as 2 B1
1xB1: 40Hz-180Hz, B1 specific EQ, -6dB as compared to nominal
2xB1: 40Hz-180Hz, B1 specific EQ, -12dB as compared to nominal

What this complex behavior does is the following. No matter if you attach 1, 2, or 4 B1s, you will get pretty much the same balance between all combined B1s and the L1s. It’s a little off for 3, 5, 6, 7 & 8 B1s, but still reasonably close.

3) Frequency content of an acoustic guitar
Oldghm, you did some really interesting experiments there. However, you have to be really careful when using an RTA. You can feed these things a pure sine wave at 80 Hz and by turning it up make the 63 Hz and even the 40Hz LED light up. They will be lower than the 80 Hz LED, but still come on. That does NOT mean, that the sine wave contains any other frequency than 80 Hz (it certainly doesn’t). It only means that the RTA has a pretty limited frequency resolution. The 63 Hz LED will respond best to 63 Hz signal but it’s in no way “blind” to 80 Hz signal.
Thus being said, the actual frequency content is not easy to determine. All sounds that have a pitch are certainly constraint to 80 Hz and up (in standard tuning) and there isn’t actually too much energy at the fundamental. However, the “non-pitched” sounds like a hard string attack or whacking the top with your hand can very well have lower frequencies. Unfortunately, I don’t have any hard data on that, but we will measure that at some point.

4) Equal loudness curves
Here is the bunch
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/sound/eqloud.html
These curves tell us two things:
First, the same physical sound energy produces different perceived loudness depending on frequency. You can turn that around into “The physical sound energy required to produce the same perceived loudness varies with frequency”.
Second, this frequency dependency is a function of overall level.

The first statement is not particularly bothersome. Your auditory system is well calibrated to that. A voice sounds normal because it sounds like what you are used to, not because it has “constant sound energy” or “constant perceived loudness” with frequency.

The second statement is much more trouble. It basically says that if you amplify an acoustic source (even if you do it perfectly), the perceived spectral balance will change. This is a well known effect, and most of our home entertainment systems have actually and “automatic loudness compensation” that changes the system voicing with overall level. We actually contemplated adding this to the Personalized Amplification System™ but after some soul searching we thought it would be too intrusive on the musician.
The main corrections are at very low levels, and in most practical live music settings, the effect is pretty minor.
As a rule-of-thumb guideline, turn the bass up a notch as you turn the volume down.

5) L1 versus B1 fall-off with distance
As many have observed, only the L1 qualifies as a Cylindrical Radiator™ loudspeaker, the B1 certainly doesn’t as it looks a lot more like “cubical” radiator. Only a cylindrical source will display 3 dB per distance-doubling falloff. The B1 is a conventional speaker and falls off with 6 dB per distance-doubling. Does that mean that the spectrum gets unbalanced with distance, i.e. not enough bass as we move away from the source?

Not really, and here is why: The observation of so-and-so dB per distance doubling is only true in “free field”, i.e. in some imaginary space that doesn’t have any reflective surfaces. Such a thing doesn’t exist. Most places where you play generate lots and lots of reflections. At any point in the room, the sound field consists of two components: 1) The sound that comes directly from the source aptly called “direct sound” and 2) all the sound that comes bouncing back from the walls, called “reverberant field”.

The level of the reverberant field tends to be roughly the same everywhere in the room. When you are close to the source, the “direct sound” dominates. As you move away from the source, the direct sound drops in level and at some point called “critical distance” the direct sound has the same level as the reverberant field. From this point on the reverberant field dominates and the sound level remains pretty much constant no matter how much further you move away.

The level of the “reverberant field”, the “critical distance”, and the “reverb time” are all close room acoustical cousins and basically determined by the geometry and amount of absorption of the room. In nearly all rooms, there is more absorption at high frequencies and less absorption at low frequencies. Less absorption makes the reverb time longer, the reverberant field level higher, and the critical distance shorter.

Another factor that influences the critical distance is the directivity of the sound source. Let’s make a thought experiment: Imagine a sound source that radiates “normally” to the front but nothing to the back. The direct sound level doesn’t change, but the reverberant level drops by 3 dB since the total energy radiated into the room has dropped by half. That means the critical distance has increased. Of course, that’s only true if you stand in front of the source. In the rear, there is no direct sound any more and the critical distance has become zero. We see that the directionality of the sound source increases the critical distance within it’s beam, cone, pie slice (or whatever shape it radiates), but decreases the critical distance outside.

Now what has all that to do with our initial L1/B1 problem? As it turns out the L1 has a much higher critical distance than the B1. That has two reasons: First, there is more absorption at higher frequencies. Second, the L1 is highly directional: it doesn’t radiate up or down.

Taking all this together we see roughly the following picture: The L1 has a fairly large critical distance, i.e. it’s mostly direct sound and that falls off with ca. 3 dB per distance doubling. The B1 has a short critical distance (not directional, low room absorption) so the behavior becomes quickly a mix of reverberant field and direct sound which tends to also look fairly similar to a 3 dB per distance-doubling fall-off over a good stretch.

To add insult to injury, this is all grossly simplified. In actual rooms, the reverberant field is never really constant, room modes get in the way, the L1 behaves not quite cylindrical in the lower mids, bass levels increase in the vicinity of wall, etc.

If it’s any consolation, we have actually measured the fall off versus distance for our combined system (L1 & B1) in a couple of different rooms and the 3dB per distance- doubling describes the measured data remarkably well.

If anyone is still awake after this lengthy lecture (apologies), I’ll try to tackle the “philosophical” stuff next.

Hilmar

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Updating the software to Version 2.0

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Hi Greg/Jerry. Some random things to consider when upgrading your system by the download-burn CD method.


  • Burn the downloaded file as a "audio" CD, not a "data" CD
  • Make sure that your burn software has all processing disabled. Some software applies normalization. Check the options to make sure that this is OFF.
  • When you burn the CD, I actually prefer to burn 3 tracks of the same file in a row. So, in other words, tracks 1, 2, and 3 would be the same file.
  • On your DVD player you MUST TURN OFF ALL DSP PROCESSING like dynamic range compression, 3D effects, speaker size selection
  • If you are using a portable DVD player with a volume control, make sure that the volume control is at MAX.
  • On your DVD player, try BITSTREAM MODE first. If that doesn't work, we've seen PCM MODE work also.
  • When flashing the PS1 using the DVD player, it's sometimes good to start with the DVD player at STOP. Turn the PS1 off, then back on. Next, press play on the DVD player to start the upgrade process. Be patient, it sometimes takes 10 seconds or so to start the blinking.


I hope these suggestions help!



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L1 Cylindrical Radiator® loudspeaker

Modification to section:

Lesson: No need to remove the Bayonet to get it into the carry bags.

The Bayonet should not be removed from the top section of the L1 to get it to fit in the carry bags. It may be a stretch at first, but you can get the top portion of the L1 into the carrying bag. You'll soon find it fiting nicely.


Addition to Section:

Lesson: The Bayonet can be adjusted for easier mouting/dismounting with lower ceilings.

Newer L1 Cylindrical Radiator(r) loudspeakers have bayonets with three holes. With the upper L1 on a table or floor, you can easily unscrew the two Phillips-head screws from the Bayonet and reposition the Bayonet so that it does not protrude as much out from the upper L1. This gains you an extra inch of space when mounting/dismounting the upper L1 in places where the ceiling height is less than ideal.


Kyle-at-Bose


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Cases for the Systems

ATA Rated Hardshell Cases
Available through Bose.Quality Cases brand hard cases

And one of the many discussions about Transporting your Systems

Tom's (Munch) excellent cases discussion Good Cases

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Spares
Here are a couple of things I would have on hand (spares) that you can get on the Accessories page

Long remote cable(s): Not strictly necessary, but you might want to have one or more of these 33 foot cables. I use these on those rare occasions when I need to help from off-stage. But I also use them all the time in 'snakes' with 25 foot microphone cables. It just gives me more flexibility for stage layout.

B1 Cable: If you don't have ready access to 4 wire Speakon cables then might want a spare. Not because they fail, but in case you lose one. What I did was get an extra cable and a Female:Female Speakon adapter so I have a spare, but I can also use the spare as an extension if I need a few extra feet.

Fuses: I've never popped a fuse and you do get a spare with the System. Still, if power as an issue for you, you might want to be prepared..

Remote
If you are getting only one System (for now) you might consider getting an extra Remote. If you are getting more than one System then in a pinch you can set things up with a Remote on one System, then move it to another and use it there.

To be clear... I have never had a problem with any of these little things but if you are micro-attentive then you might want to have some of these close at hand.
 
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For R1 Remote section, under The Gear:

This was taken from a recent thread that Wally started:
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The system will only recognize the remote if it's connected when the system is powered up. On the other hand, if you set and then disconnect the remote after the PS1 is powered up, the system will retain those settings until the power is turned off.
 
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