Hi Bose Experts and Gurus,

I have one Bose system now and plan to be purchasing an upto an additional 8. I posted a
while back but have not been able to proceed until now.

Band - 6 horns on Risers
- 4 Rhythm (piano bass drums guitar)
- 4 vocalists (2 male 2 female)

I'm pretty fixed on the configuration
and layout positioning of the band. I'm
looking for the optimal Bose setup to
acommodate this. We use risers so it
is a bit tricky.

Please review and comment on following
image diagram proposal:
http://www.almeida.com/bose/Bose_Proposal_8_Towers.jpg

Is this too much/overkill? Where would you
reduce/consolidate? Will I have
feedback issues? *note - I don't like
having mini mixers all over the place
and would rather have the mics plug in
direct to bose i.e. that's why I split
the 6 horn players off of 3 systems


Here is our band Website with video/audio of us.
http://www.siliconvibe.com
You can see our setup and risers in action...

-Note - I'm also planning to visit Phoenix to
see the Groove Merchants (a similar
band). They've been using this
system for a while and like it alot.
Dean (their leader) has been extremely
helpful.

Hey Carlos, just a quick note. Everything looks good in the diagram. My only concern is the guitarist's L1 system is behind the drum kit. I don't know if you will be playing the drums so loud that it may interfere with his ability to hear himself? I think moving the guitar L1 out from behind the kit may help. Overall the system layout looks great!

Carlos,

Hilmar-at-Bose plays in a similar band and I'll ask him by way of this post to comment on your diagram.

Dean Randall's an awesome dude and his band is great. You're in very good hands there.

(Your band looks and sounds totally kickin. Nice web site too. Which one are you?)

Having 8 systems will sound great with your band, no doubt about it. In addition to CJ's earlier comment about the guitar, I have two initial comments about your layout. First, I would rather see the PAS systems on the back line, with the instruments and vocals as much in front of the systems as the stage will allow. Second, the vocals should be spread out as much as possible with one vocalist per system. So, for example, vocalist 3 could be paired with the tenor sax on a tower and vocalist 4 with the bari sax. It might even be better to spread the vocalists physically farther apart on the stage. So Voc 1 might share with the guitar, voc 2 with one of the trumpets, etc.

Larry

Thanks Ken, CJ and Larry...

Re: Guitar comment from CJ (moving from
behind the drums).
- Yes I think I can move it up. I'm also
thinking to us the out signals from the
Piano and both vocalist into a Mixer and
and back into an open line on PAS1 (the
Guitar tower) as a monitor for all of us
on stage.

Re: comments from Ken
Dean's a great person and is very
patient with my dumb questions.
Thanks on the website/music. I'm
the drummer and leader.

Re: comments from Larry

Larry - I agree. The optimal setting
is to have all the towers in line
way behind the band.
Unfortunately, I'm really invested
in those risers and the look of the
band. And Often, we're right against
a wall. In terms of spliting the
vocals, I'm trying to give them a
reasonably close and unshared path.
I've had considerable challenge with
them complaining about the one system I'm
using right now. It wasn't loud enough
for them to hear (and do their backup
harmonies). I figured I would
1) dedicate two systems right behind
them.
2) Switch from my SM58's to OM5's
(which I read on this message
board were more resistant
to feedback and thus could
be able to crank the sound
a notch higher - hopefully).

The critical path for success in this
are the vocals for me. If they're
happy, all is good - otherwise...

Thanks for your help!

Carlos

Hi Carlos,

Not much to add to the great advice you've already received.



What does come to mind...
Could you get some small risers 24" to go behind the horns. They don't have to be very wide.

You could do the same for the 12" riser that would be necessary for the guitar player's system.

I saw that you are often right up against the wall, but ... aren't you recovering a bit of space that used to be required in front of (or even on) the risers for monitors?

If you are recovering a foot or two where the monitors were, could you find that space behind the risers?

Then you probably could get the systems behind the players.

Good point, ST. You could get the towers off the ground and even tilt them downward towards the audiance if necessary for coverage. Build some 24" tall boxes with adjustable sloping tops for varying applications.

Larry