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Hi setup my equip,

Thanks for using The Sketcher!

This is just a quick note to send you a link to your Sketch in case you want to review it, edit it, or share it with others.


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Quoting setup my equip from The Sketcher
quote:
have makie 1400 wattrack mount amp
marshall 9200 dual mono system rack mount amp
16 channel peavey mix board
4 stage mon.
a pair of 1000 wat tower loudspeakers
8 track digi recorder
keyboard , mics, and 2 effects prossesers (rack mount)

im trying to utlize everything but the more i use the **** it sounds
any pointers, tips or advice would be app.
also have new laptop i bought just for recording
i play the drums and control all sound and controls from behind drums
need help on setup thax


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Hi Bose Guy in Calgary,

Thanks for using The Sketcher!

This is just a quick note to send you a link to your Sketch in case you want to review it, edit it, or share it with others.


-- click image to make changes to the live version --

Codes:
Orange numbers are Systems and Inputs using those Systems.
Blue ringed numbers are Channel connections to/from the Classic and Model I Systems.
Green numbers are for general notes about the Sketch and connections to non-Bose gear.

Quoting Bose Guy in Calgary from The Sketcher
quote:
The Emeralds Stage Layout

Wallis uses L1 #1 exclusively (Main vocal mic and sax mic)

Allan uses L1 #3 exclusively (Main vocal mic and sax mic)

All other sources through 12 channel mixer which feeds L1 #2 (center)

Advantages:
1. Current monitoring system completely eliminated.
2. Front-of-House Yorkville Elites and tripod stands eliminated.
3. Much broader 'stereo' sound anywhere on stage and in the audience.
4. Tighter harmonies as all band members clearly hear each other.

 
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Hi Hippo,

Thanks for using The Sketcher!

This is just a quick note to send you a link to your Sketch in case you want to review it, edit it, or share it with others.


-- click image to make changes to the live version --
Here is a link to the full sized version of the image.

Please tell us more about your music:

  • What kind(s) of music you play,
  • Where you do it (size, type of venue)
  • Who is there (audience) - how many, what are they doing while you are performing


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Hi tony716,

Thanks for using The Sketcher!

This is just a quick note to send you a link to your Sketch in case you want to review it, edit it, or share it with others.


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Quoting tony716 from The Sketcher
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I was told by my guitar center rep. that one system could do the job. Do you agree? Could I get away with using two systems? Do I need a bass module with the system. We are a group of 4....everyone sings and one player switches between electric and acousic guitars.. Thanks for your help!


Please tell us more about your music:

  • What kind(s) of music you play,
  • Where you do it (size, type of venue)
  • Who is there (audience) - how many, what are they doing while you are performing




Tony - Please see Four who sing and play - Tony
 
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Hi weddingsinger,

Thanks for using The Sketcher!

This is just a quick note to send you a link to your Sketch in case you want to review it, edit it, or share it with others.


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Here is a link to the full sized version of the image.

It looks like you have a plan. Do you need a hand?


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Hi goodie42,

Thanks for using The Sketcher!

This is just a quick note to send you a link to your Sketch in case you want to review it, edit it, or share it with others.


-- click image to make changes to the live version --

Codes (as we tend to use them here):
Orange numbers are Systems and Inputs using those Systems.
Blue ringed numbers are Channel connections to/from the Classic and Model I Systems.
Blue filled numbers are Channel connections to/from the T1 ToneMatch™ audio engine.
Green numbers are for general notes about the Sketch and connections to non-Bose gear.

Quoting goodie42 from The Sketcher
quote:
The lead guitarist plays through a Line 6 Vetta amp with the left and right channels
from the amp going into channels 3 & 4 of the far L1 left system.

The drums are mic'ed up with a kick mic, a snare mic and a mic on each of the toms. This is then passed to a small mixer. The left channel of the mixer goes to channel 1of the bouble bass L1 system to the left of the drums. The right cannel from the mixer goes to channel 1 of the double bass L1 system to the right of the drums.

The bass guitar is played through a marshal bass stack and the output from the bass amp DI is split and passed to cannel 2 of the two bouble bass L1 systems on either side of the drums.

The second guitarist plays through a BOSS ME 50 multieffects unit plugged straight into channels 3 & 4 of the far right L1 system.

The bass player is the main singer and his vocal pass through two Alesis Midiverb effects boxes into a Behringer Feedback Destroyer and the left channel from the feedback destroyer is sent to channel 1 of the far left L1 system and the right channel from the feedback desroyer is sent to channel 1 of the far right L1 system.

The two guitarist provide occasional backing vocals. The lead guitarist vocal is sent straight to channel 2 of the far right L1 system and the second guitarist vocal is sent to channel 2 of the far left L1 system.


What kinds of music are you playing?

How large are the places you play?


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Hi Bose Guy in Calgary,

Here is your latest version of your Sketch.


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Hi aerta,

Thanks for using The Sketcher!

This is just a quick note to send you a link to your Sketch in case you want to review it, edit it, or share it with others.


-- click image to make changes to the live version --


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Hi aerta,

Here is one of many ways to set your band (based on your Sketch).

I have replaced the big Guitar Amp with a pedalboard processor and an L1™ .

is for the Vocalist out front. I've put a total of four B1 Bass modules on that System to support the Kick Drum microphone.

is for the Bassist who will probably want four B1s.


-- click image to make changes to the live version --

Codes:
Orange numbers are Systems and Inputs using those Systems.
Blue ringed numbers are Channel connections to/from the Classic and Model I Systems.

Please tell us more about your music:

  • What kind(s) of music you play,
  • Where you do it (size, type of venue)
  • Who is there (audience) - how many, what are they doing while you are performing


Then I can make changes or offer suggestions that would be more specific to your band.
 
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Hi Aerta,

I've started a new discussion for you. It'll take a few minutes, but get things copied over there and we can continue the conversation.

3-4 piece Blues Band - Aerta
 
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Hi salper,

Thanks for using The Sketcher!

This is just a quick note to send you a link to your Sketch in case you want to review it, edit it, or share it with others.


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Did you have any questions?
 
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Hi scotty,

Thanks for using The Sketcher!

This is just a quick note to send you a link to your Sketch in case you want to review it, edit it, or share it with others.


-- click image to make changes to the live version --

Here is a link to the full sized version of the image.

Quoting scotty from The Sketcher
quote:
1. Entrances into bar/dining room area where I'm playing. Openings lead to additional dining rooms
3. Bar
4. Dining Tables


That is probably the most interesting use for the Sketcher that I've seen in awhile.

Is there anything we can do to help you?


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Hi Scotty

I just saw your revised version with the longer notes



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Quoting scotty from The Sketcher
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1. Entrances into bar/dining room area where I'm playing. Openings lead to additional dining rooms
3. Bar
4. Dining Tables

The room is a long rectangle just like the sketcher layout. The music area is wedged in as shown and is level with the dining tables. No flexibility on moving the performance area. Last week the guy who played had a speaker pointed directly at the bar, and another pointed directly "west". He stood directly facing the bar.
Question: I'm thinking of turning my L1 setup at a 30-45 degree angle from the bar to get the best distribution. I may elevate the B1 on a low table. Am I on the right track? Any comments or suggestions?


I'll be back to you in a couple of minutes.
 
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Hi Scotty - please see

Long Narrow room - Scotty

Thanks
 
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Hi Pryson,

Thanks for using The Sketcher!

This is just a quick note to send you a link to your Sketch in case you want to review it, edit it, or share it with others.


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Quoting Pryson from The Sketcher
quote:
----I would like to do this as cheap as possible without taking away or jeapordizing the quality
of the sound. I presently am using:
1. power amp for mains with a equalizer
2. power amp for monitors with a eqalizer
3. 16 channel mixing board (Peavy)
4. Power amp for subwoofers
5. effect processor for all vocals
6. Drums are not miked.



Edit: Hi Pryson - please join me here 6 Performers - Pryson

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Hi tedg,

Thanks for using The Sketcher!

This is just a quick note to send you a link to your Sketch in case you want to review it, edit it, or share it with others.


-- click image to make changes to the live version --
Here is a link to the full sized version of the image.


Quoting tedg from The Sketcher
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Vocalists don't play instruments. Nearly all members sing back up. We need monitors badly. Imagine this set-up without the amps miked. The drums are not currently miked either and get buried. We have issues with guitar loudness wars as well. Would like to eliminate all personal amps and all go through mixer giving sound man control of volume. Lead singer cannot hear himself. Pedal in front of bass is bass pedal.


That's a lot of pain you are describing. I'd like to think on this for a bit, and then I'll get back to you with some ideas on how you could set up with the Bose L1™s to alleviate some of the suffering.

Please tell us more about your music:

  • What kind(s) of music you play,
  • Where you do it (size, type of venue)
  • Who is there (audience) - how many, what are they doing while you are performing


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We play classic rock, late 60's, 70's 80's and some current stuff but not much. We tend to fing ourselves playing outside under a tent. Our audiences have been small up to this point but as always, we would like to plan for hundreds.
 
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Hi tedg,

Thanks for the new information.

I have started a new discussion for you. Please see:

Classic Roc 60's-80's Under a Tent - tedg

See you there!
 
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Hi Bill Battle,

Thanks for using The Sketcher!

This is just a quick note to send you a link to your Sketch in case you want to review it, edit it, or share it with others.


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Here is a link to the full sized version of the image.

Quoting Bill Battle from The Sketcher
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Your main headset mic would be plugged into System #3 channel 1. You could take that Direct out of Channel #1 and run into System #2 Channel 1. Take that direct out to System #1 Channel #1. This way, your vocal would be coming out of every system. The other way of doing this would be to send your vocal mic back to the mixer. Use three of the AUX outs of the mixer to send to each Bose system, Channel 1. Use desired preset.



That looks like quite the elaborate plan. Do you have any questions? Is there anything I can do to help?


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Hi sullivgr,

Thanks for using The Sketcher!

This is just a quick note to send you a link to your Sketch in case you want to review it, edit it, or share it with others.


-- click image to make changes to the live version --
Here is a link to the full sized version of the image.



Quoting sullivgr from The Sketcher
quote:
Bass and guitar use A/B switching between instruments and wireless units




Please tell us more about your music:

  • What kind(s) of music you play,
  • Where you do it (size, type of venue)
  • Who is there (audience) - how many, what are they doing while you are performing


This will help me to set up a stage layout for you.


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