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Hi I was just wondering what the best method of connecting to a house pa system might be.
I have heard of someone connecting from the T1Model11 base into the house system?
Also another method i hear is to connect a 1/4 " jack from the master out on the touchmatch to an xlr connector which I can only assume connects to the mic in on the house pa?.
please help
sound still great by the way!!
 
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Hi Katy Jay,

The best way for you to connect to a house system would be to take a line out from the T1®.

You can use the Master Output (¼ inch jack Tip-Ring-Sleeve) for an exact duplicate of the mix being sent to the Model II Power Stand.

OR

You can use the Aux Output (¼ inch jack Tip-Ring-Sleeve) for a different mix if you need that. Note - there is no reverb in the Aux mix, but everything else is there. Here are some notes for setting that up.

T1 ToneMatch® Audio Engine Aux Output

Both of these outputs are LINE-LEVEL outputs. You would not normally run these into a microphone input in the House PA. But if you tell the sound technician who runs the House PA that you have a balanced line-level output (¼ inch jack Tip-Ring-Sleeve) s/he should know how to handle that.

NOTE: There is no full-range line-level output from the Model II Power Stand. This is why you need to use one of the outputs on the T1®.

Did that help?
 
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Hi ST thanks for your reply. Yes that makes sense. I have both types of cable, so ill just leave it to the sound engineer to do the choosing for me.
 
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Hi Katy Jay,

I am glad that made sense. Have a great show and please come back and tell us how it went.

Thank you.
 
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ST, since my L1M2T1 is my bass rig, I have to plug into a house PA when required. I've got TRS 1/4 to XLR plugs. The other day we played through a house PA at an outdoor event. I ran my bass line straight off the preamp out of that channel. I wanted to take advantage of the eq and other effects used for my vox, so I ran a line from my aux with only my vox going through it. And now I read that the reverb isn't in the aux mix. Anyways, the sound guy said he had so much gain coming through my channel that he had me turned almost completely off. I even brought down the output level through the aux. My question to you is, what do I do if the sound engineer doesn't know how to handle a balanced line-level output? I assume that means he's not much of a sound engineer if he doesn't know what to do with it, but since I am not, I would like to learn so that I know how to educate someone if necessary in the future. Thanks!


-Greg
 
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Hi Greg,

Without speculating on the sound engineer's prowess ...

Your approach of turning down the output of the Aux was sound in this situation. If that doesn't help (enough)...

  • You could try an unbalanced connection ¼ inch jack Tip-Sleeve to ¼ inch jack Tip-Sleeve to a line level input on the house system. This would have a lower level signal. You might pick up some line noise, but if you don't hear any hums, buzzes, or excessive hiss, it's probably fine.

  • The Aux output can be attenuated by using an external DI box (preferably one with switchable pad built in).

  • If you already have the cable to convert from ¼ inch jack Tip-Ring-Sleeve to XLR, then you can just get an inline XLR-to-XLR pad.



But as I read this again,
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Originally posted by Greg - SexyTractor:
Anyways, the sound guy said he had so much gain coming through my channel that he had me turned almost completely off.


If he meant that he had to set the input trim on his board "almost completely off", that would make sense in this context. Could you hear your vocals in the house mix? Or, if you couldn't hear the house mix, did anybody else notice a problem with your vocal level?


edit: added a few more thoughts and edits for clarity - I hope.

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Mine was the only vox he had issues with, and mine was the only coming from a Bose first. The XLR-XLR pad is probably exactly what I need since I already have the cables. Thank you for your help!


-Greg
 
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Originally posted by Greg - SexyTractor:
Mine was the only vox he had issues with, and mine was the only coming from a Bose first. The XLR-XLR pad is probably exactly what I need since I already have the cables. Thank you for your help!


Sounds to me that the "sound guy" didn't know his board and/or how to use the pad button on the mixer.


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Sound guy didn't know much, that's for dang sure. But we're playing in front of 2500 people and I wasn't wireless, so I didn't have the luxury of stepping out front. Let me clarify a previous statement...he had issues with everything, but my vox was the only vox channel that was gained too high for him to deal with.

I just ordered 4 Hosa switchable pads off ebay for $60 shipped. That's an awesome price if anyone else feels they need these in their toolboxes. Just do a search and you'll find em pretty easily.


-Greg
 
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