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we have two LT1's in the band we want to connect together so we got a non powered mixer with no effects we found that running this, and using the tone engine effects, did not allow us to run the Bass Guitar dry, with no effects, I think we need a mixer with effects.. I'm surprised that Bose, would not see this problem, and make a non powered BOSE mixer with effects that would do the job. we love the sticks, but need direction on how to tie them together with-out problems. Harry Gerard
 
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we have two LT1's in the band we want to connect together so we got a non powered mixer with no effects we found that running this, and using the tone engine effects, did not allow us to run the Bass Guitar dry, with no effects, I think we need a mixer with effects.. I'm surprised that Bose, would not see this problem, and make a non powered BOSE mixer with effects that would do the job. we love the sticks, but need direction on how to tie them together with-out problems. Harry Gerard


Hi Harry,

Can you give us a little more clarification of what you're using? Brand/Model of the mixer and how you are routing them to the L1's? I'm assuming you have a Model 1 and are not using the Bose T1 mixer (the non-powered Bose mixer w/ effects you were hoping was out there).

I'm sure that we can help you out - just give us a little more info.

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This may have been answered, We have two L1's and three B-1 bass modules. we are running vocals, guitar, keyboard and Bass guitar thru them, we do get some feed back, and are not sure how to eliminate that, my main question is, is there a way, to get the reverb off the bass guitar, I'm trying to get a solid punch type sound from the Bose. now, it is kinda big/fat mushy sounding. the B-1's are the type with the fold out legs, we both have tone engines, as well, and we tie these sticks together with guitar cords. please help. thanks Harry Gerard
 
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Hi Harry,

Let's deal with the reverb issue first.

You should be able to turn off reverb on any T1® Channel.

Please try this:

  1. Take on T1® and disconnect if from everything including the other T1®

  2. Connect the T1® to ONE Power Stand. If your L1® an L1® Model II, then go to step 3. If it is an L1® Model I, connect the T1 ToneMatch® Audio Engine Power Supply

  3. Connect the electric bass on channel 1 of the T1

  4. Press the CH Edit button for channel 1

  5. Turn the Rotary Selector to Reverb

  6. If the display shows "Mix" and "Bright"
    press the left-most button under the display.
    The display should then show "Mix", "Bypass"

  7. Turn the rotary selector to "Delay".

  8. Bypass the delay (same procedure as for reverb, above).


At this point the Reverb is off.

How does that sound? Can you still hear reverb? If not, then just repeat this procedure on whichever T1® you are using for the Bass, on the channel where you have the Bass Connected.

Then make any other changes you want (Presets, or EQ other effects

Even though you CAN connect the two T1®s together, it probably doesn't convey any benefit but you could be creating a issue with Multiple Source Interference


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There seems to be confusion as to what Bose equipment I have, here is what we use. Two Lt1 type 11. Two tone engines two bass modules one my side and one on the other side. The towers are the ones where the speakers are angled. The Floor bases are the ones that four legs swing out. Trying to use a non powered mackie mixer with a 50foot snake could not be done, the tone engines only have an 18 ft. Line.
That was the limit a sound person could get. If we could find 50 ft. Cables maybe the tone engines could be run and used like a mixing board, we also connect the two towers together by two 25 ft. Guitar style cords out of the master out to the input on the floor stand we do this from each tone units to each floor stand. Any info about this would help.
 
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Hi Harry,

For the T1 cables you can use ordinary computer network cables up to 50 feet.

Here are some notes: T1 Cables.

For the other issues, please see my post above.
 
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There seems to be confusion as to what Bose equipment I have, here is what we use. Two Lt1 type 11. Two tone engines two bass modules one my side and one on the other side. The towers are the ones where the speakers are angled. The Floor bases are the ones that four legs swing out. Trying to use a non powered mackie mixer with a 50foot snake could not be done, the tone engines only have an 18 ft. Line.
That was the limit a sound person could get. If we could find 50 ft. Cables maybe the tone engines could be run and used like a mixing board, we also connect the two towers together by two 25 ft. Guitar style cords out of the master out to the input on the floor stand we do this from each tone units to each floor stand. Any info about this would help.


Harry,

It sounds to me like you may be creating unecessary problems by connecting the two towers and trying to use a sound guy - but that is just my guess (not knowing what kind of band you have). By your description - It looks to me as what you really have is two L1 Model 2s, two T1 Tone Engines and two B1 bass modules.

You are in Maryville. There are at least three active bands playing around Knoxville using L1 systems - including mine. None of them connect the two L1s arrays together - and none of them use a sound man. Connecting the L1s does not get you anything for most applications. Plus it is not how the sytems were intended to be run.

A sound guy is wholly unneccessary for most small groups - as with the L1s, you are really doing your mix in the air. You will definitely be able to hear a great mix on your own - on stage in most applications - without the help of a sound guy.

Come check out a nine 8 central (4 pc rock cover band) show one night (next one is 6/8 at Calhouns by the dam) - or catch the Shoe Skakerz (5 pc cover band). The name of the other group escapes me now - but I know they just played SMB in Maryville recently - and IIRC are a trio cover band.

If you still want to run the systems as you are talking about doing - then check out ST's advice on cables - and read up about the pitfalls associated with dual mono and multiple source interference.


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Posts: 422 | Location: Knoxville, TN | Registered: Thu June 17 2010Reply With QuoteAsk Bose for help
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thank you John, I have listened to the shoe shakerz and their Bose system I believe they connect them together, We are a new Classic Rock band, in this same area, I will look forward to coming out to see you one day soon, thanks, so much for your help. We are still learning. We are Charlie Gholson (Crossfield) Mark Sedoris(who sits in with Shoe shakerz on occasion) Vike Ward , her old band was Fordward Bound, and I play Bass, from New England/Florida, Harry Gerard 603-7325
 
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