Hi, my name is Yohan.
I have just bought 2 L1 compact system to be used in Sunday service of our church.
I have heard the sound quality of L1 compact system and it was really great, but I want to know if 2 L1 compact system can "cover" my worship place (see attachment)?
Can anyone give any suggestion?
Thank you for joining the Forum.
Thank you too for the picture.
I am counting 8 rows of 13 seats + 5 on each side for a total of 184 seats. Is that about right?
I have used Compacts in a church bigger than this and the show was was fine. But that particular church was very well designed acoustically, and it was very very quiet. Also the performance I was doing was for an extremely attentive audience of about 400 people.
Your situation may be entirely different. Please tell us about the kind of musical performances and other presentations you will will have here. Are the people sitting quietly listening or noisily participating in some other way. Is the room quiet?
What is the greatest distance from the back of stage to the persons sitting at the back of the viewing/listening area? I can't tell from the picture - how deep is the stage?
What kind of microphones will you be using?
Sorry about the picture, it should be 13 rows to the back.
We will not use the stage entirely. There will be only one preacher stand in the very front middle of the stage and one singer on his side.
We are traditional church that only sing hymn song, so it will not be as "loud" as the other church.
We only use 1 piano and 1 keyboard.
I am relieve when I read your comment, because one of our church member are reluctant to buy Bose speaker because of the price but I need to justify why I need to buy it.
Thanks for the quick reply
I will be using Behringer Mixer with 2 main outputs (one for each speaker) and we are using Shure microphone, but i don't know the exact type of the mic.
It will be 15-20m distance from the front of the stage until the back of the room.
If this is 13 rows to the back, about 300 people, then you may need more than the Compacts can give you. If the people are very quiet, and the room is quiet, it could be fine for the spoken word portions of the service. But this will depend what microphones you use and other factors.
What is the vertical elevation from the stage floor to the highest row of seats (ear level)?
I am being cautious because I think that you may be at the outside limits of what is feasible.
Are you in North America? If you deal directly with Bose, there is a 45 day return policy, and that means that if the Compacts do not provide the coverage you need, you can return them. Authorized Bose dealers may offer similar terms, but you need to investigate that before you purchase.
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I just saw this - thank you for the information.
15-20 metres - that should be okay. I looks like the room is about the same width - is that correct? 15-20 metres?
Is the church full during services?
Are the microphones hand-held? If they are the kind that you clip onto your clothing, you may not get the best results.
What are you using for amplification now?
I have posted another picture that can help you to see the room in different angle.
No, there will be only 100-150 people in that venue.
We will put the microphone in the mic stand.
Amplification? Do you mean power amplifier?
Does L1 has their own build in power amplifier?
Thank you for the new picture. That helps.
Okay, I have much more confidence that a couple of Compacts will serve you well given the information you provided above.
I was just trying to understand what you might have used in this room before to get an idea of what you might be used to using and hearing.
Yes - each L1® Compact has it's own amplifier. You will not need more amplifiers to operate them. I'm sorry for the confusion.
Are the walls treated with sound dampening material? Is there acoustic treatment to minimize reverberation in the space above the seats?
Where are you yohan?
Greetings from Canada.
I dont have any info about the existing speaker. We just rent the classroom so we do not allow to use the existing sound system, we need to set it up by our own and we only have 30 minutes to setup. So yeah, i think L1 compact really suit us.
We have the first service this Sunday and I am really look into it.
About the wall, I don't think they treat the acoustic well, i think it is just normal brick wall but the floor is covered with carpet.
I am in Melbourne and I found the price of Bose speaker in here is much more expensive than in the US.
Thanks about the comment and suggestion
I think that you will really enjoy how easy it is to move and set up the Compacts.
Please let us know how it goes on Sunday.
I would try the Compacts as shown below.
Experiment moving them in toward the middle of the stage if you think that you are not getting enough coverage in the middle of the room. But keep them at least 6 metres apart.
wow, thanks for the picture. really appreciate it.
Yep, I will try out your suggestion this weekend.
I think the congregation will be seated in the middle row seat (because it will be only 100 people out of 270 seats), so i think it will be better if I move the speaker more to the middle of the stage.
I will try to keep them as far apart as possible.
Hi, I have tried my new L1 compact just now.
When I tried to put the microphone directly to the speaker, it produce natural sound and great quality, but when I tried to use my mixer (behringer x2442) and put the main output of my mixer to those 2 speaker (so i make stereo system), it sounds not as good as before.
I have played around with the high, mid high, mid low, and low adjustment, but still the sound can't be as natural as when i plug the mic directly to the speaker.
Do i miss something?
Do you recommend me to play around with the treble and bass setting in the speaker? Or i need to the adjustment from the mixer?
If you haven't already done it, please connect each mixer output to Compact Channel 2 on each Compact. Set the ToneMatch® switch to line-level (down position).
Then control the treble and bass settings with the mixer.
Make sure that the Compacts are at least 6 metres apart.
Does that help?
take the outputs from here (green box with checkmark)
Whats the difference between channel 1 and 2 in the speaker?
Sorry i haven't had opportunity to read the manual book.
Can I use the main output from the mixer (because it has more power) then convert the cable with xlr-6.5mm cable and plug it in into the 2nd channel of the mixer?
Thanks for the explanation
Compact Channel 1 is designed to accept microphones (only) see page 6 from manual below.
Here is a picture from page 10 of the manual that shows the recommended connections from a mixer to two Compacts (just like you are doing).
Here is a link to the Compact Owners Guide.
From what I can see on page 15 of the Behringer X2442USB the XLR and ¼ inch jack outputs are both nominal +4 dBu.
You can use adapters if you want, but I don't see that it gives you more power.
The input sensivity on Compact Channel 1 is higher than Compact Channel 2, but that is because it is designed for microphones.
Channel 2 is a better match the output level of a mixer.
Thanks for your detailed explanation.
I will give another try tomorrow, before the "big day" on Sunday.
I will try to set it up based on your suggestion and let see how it goes.
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