Boys and girls, I could not be more delighted. No, I could not could be. It was everything I expected and I expected nothing. That sounds foolish. I guess I mean I could not imagine it any better, really. Just wonderful. Right now, it is late, and I am wiped, so just quick high points for now:
At-Bose........man, what can I say? If I could handpick friends - indeed, if I could design friends - they could not be any more.......I don't know what to say. What a treat to be able to spend time with you three.
Sound quality - I used my Classic. It integrates beautifully with the Model II (we had three of those up and going the whole time). The Classic is as trusty as we all know it to be. The Model II is very, very nice. I think Carrie is sold on it, simply for the lightness of the power stand. (Me, too!)
Col. and Mrs. Andy - This is the sweetest little boy I have ever met. Sure, that sounds crazy, but it's true. I think he was everybody's son yesterday - you know...Christmas morning. Hey, and Mrs. Col Andy is a nurse, too! (Mrs. BBE found common ground, there, you see)
Bass phenom!! I have the entire discussion. It's a must see, hear and feel. Well, see and hear, anyway. If you were at Big Sur, you understand the feel part, too.
It will take a while to filter through all of our video and photos. I look forward to seeing what some of the other troops captured in the meantime. No doubt you all will be faster than me at getting that stuff posted.
Thank you Pete, John and Bob for the collaborative effort in putting this one together. I do appreciate it and am privileged to have been a part.
St. Louis attendees, it was a perfection of Midwest representation. What a fulfilling day and evening we had. Thank you very much for coming and participating.
I guess that should do for now. Another big week (aren't they all?), and I should take advantage of what sleeping time there is. I'll take a crack at a full "gig report" in a day, or so.
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Moved Reply: It was great to meet everyone who made it out to St. Louis, your genuine spirit and talent are remarkable. The diversity of the musicianship provided plenty of surprises at every turn.
We were able to provide 3 complete Model II systems including T1's for the event. It was fun watching those that were inspecting every detail of the modeL II as they were setting it up. The curiosity and appreciation for the T1 was evident, and it did not take long for most to stop by and check it out.
There are so many highlights for me, I will provide you with a few:
Andy started us out with his rich baritone voice and acoustic guitar work. His humble nature and his story behind discovering the L1 was moving.
Our infomal presentation on the model II instantly became an open discussion providing clarity to many.
Nathan did an excellent job motivating everyone to share more and keeping us on track.
Pete and the Cubs joined by Nathan delivered some true classics and had everyone singing along.
The open jam featured mutliple guitars, fiddles, and vocalists that were performing together for the first time. Watching everyone adjust to the new system with the gentle coaching from Ken was rewarding. The T1 was put through it's paces and it was great watching everyone becoming comfortable with it in a very short time.
Chris Ickler delivered a tremendous presentation on the subjectivity of bass response that I hope we can share with you in the near future - there were some serious light bulbs going off.
Ken had the distinct honor of awarding a complete model II system with a T1. The lucky winner was Andy and watching his response when Ken delivered the good news was priceless.
Andy was truly grateful, so grateful in fact that when I asked him for his address to ship the system to he needed a few minutes to remember it.
Thanks again to everyone that attended, I know you had as much fun as I did.
Some pics to follow.
Moved Reply: Ken and Chris at the Gables
Moved Reply: That drum guy we all know and love
Moved Reply: Firepower
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Moved Reply: Thanks for the recap and pix, Neil! Hey Pete, try to have some fun, will ya?
Moved Reply: Chuck, I'll try to lighten up a little.
Nice recap Neil, and right on! It was a great day and good fun, food, music, and friendship.
Nathan was a fantastic Master of Ceremonies, I loved how he asked everyone about their discovery of the L1 and subsequent journey.
It was so great that you, Ken, and Chris came all that way to make our little "jam" a legitimate "conference".
Each conference I get to know you all better, and it is a real treat.
Thanks for all your work, explanations of the T1, and the (slightly off-topic) personal insights into Bose in general...we learned a lot more than just mechanics, we really got a look into the heartbeat of your team and your encounters bringing the original L1 to market. Incredibly interesting stuff.
All those Model IIs was a sight to behold!! I expected maybe one or two, but four was awesome.
And how about that lucky Col. Andy? A great guy and a humble and deserving fellow. What an out-of-this-world "door prize".
The Cubs thoroughly enjoyed the comaradery with Andy, Pam, and the St. Louis folks.
We had a great time listening to and jamming with them.
I just loved playing I Saw Her Standing There with two fiddles, Bob's acoustic, and all those voices...Wow!
The Schlafly Brewery was a fabulous venue and thanks to Bob-in-StLouis for bringing it to us.
The sound in their party room was excellent, although it looked like it might sound "hard". It didn't at all.
Everyone sounded great through the MII, my guitarist's vocal and guitar in particular to my ears, as I'm used to it thru a Classic. Watching some video today, he was so very smooth sounding.
I was too in the moment to notice it much at the time, but seeing it now, the sound blows away our older video.
I was really surprised at how just a 12% touch of reverb made him sparkle.
It was so subtle as to really not be noticed, but he just sounded sweet, Bose has done a great job with that reverb.
He remarked on the way home that he could really tell a big difference in how he sounded to himself...for the better of course.
I used my trusty Classic L1 but did get to spin the dials on the T1 a bit.
Although I've read up on it, it will take some study to get comfy with one when that day comes.
I've owned many, many mixers, but never anything like this...it's deep, more than just a "mixer".
I wasn't really comfortable enough to grab one and play thru it then and there.
I'd say in general, all the players who used the Model IIs took to them like ducks to water,
with only a small amount of help from Neil and Ken.
Thanks again you At-Bose guys, for kicking in and making this a much bigger, better memory for us.
Though it was a smaller group, the images, words, faces, and sounds are etched in my mind now just as Ashland and Big Sur are.
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Moved Reply: The Schlafly room from behind the bar, back of the room. (Edit: I've added notes to show which are Model IIs.)This message has been edited. Last edited by: Drumr,
Moved Reply: Hi Drumr Pete,
Thanks for the picture.
I can't see quite enough of the Cylindrical Radiators® to know how many Model IIs you had.
Good sized room for some live bass demos.
Moved Reply: It's 10:54 pm CDT on Sunday, July 15, 2007, and I am finally home. Man, that was a long drive!!
Just kidding, of course. After leaving St. Louis this morning, Mama Hazel Eyes had a gig in a neighboring town, where I also have rehearsal 5 nights a week. So I stayed there and she came home after her gig.
EDIT: And here we are! Thanks, ST!
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Just a quick note to shout, THANKS!
To the Bose people, Ken, Chris and Neil... it was a pleasure meeting you. I am not a "Techie", so these things usually bore me to death. However, the three of you made it more personal and I learned more about the stories behind Bose Live Music group. The trials, the headaches and the end results that we all enjoy today. It was nice to be part of this particular session, because it didn't feel like a "techie", yack, yack, blah, blah fest. - It was more of a friendly day of getting to know the real Bose family and picking up some valuable information along the way.
Chris' B1 demo on Room Modes was excellent and helped add some light to the missing bass that we all have experienced in different rooms. Though we (The Cubs) discovered long ago that it was all in the placement of the B1 that made the difference, we didn't understand why. Thanks for showing us WHY this was happening.
On a side note, I still dispute your theory on sounds not conflicting (Bass Amps on stage), but that is another conversation and would require you flying me to Boston to prove this theory in a controlled environment.... or at least, here in another thread..., so I could make my case Please point me to a thread where we could discuss this, if you don't mind.
Also, if I ever need someone for jump rope, you da man! I'm guessing that an 80hz tone simulation, would allow at least 4 kids to jump rope at the same time (of course, only if someone donates some time to anchoring the chair)
Ken, I am impressed. Bose should be very proud to have you onboard. If there was ever a company PR person who did their job well, it would have to be you. I am a (Semi-retired) Novel Engineer and I have sat through many day long events that either couldn't hold my attention or was just so "Stuffed Shirt" that it made me ill. Your sincere interest in what you do and your ability to keep everyone involved and your insight into what we the users are thinking was wonderful in how you could spark conversations on what we were thinking throughout the day. On more than one occasion, during Chris and Neil's presentations, you asked the questions that I was thinking. Your ability to put yourself in the shoes of the users and steer the talks was wonderful.
Neil. What can I say....?
I ENVY YOU!
As a fellow musician, I can only imagine what it would be like to have all the Bose toys at my fingertips from design to finish. Unfortunately, seems that we were all itching to get hands on the MII's Saturday, so you really didn't get to go into detail about all the T1's wonderful enhancements. However, I feel that you will be busy right here answering all the questions that we have, when we finally start tweaking the systems ouselves, in our own environments. It's good to have met you and to know who to ask when I have questions myself. Just another perk for me. Hey, we are looking for a 4th member of "The Cubs", if you are interested, maybe we should move to Boston?
To all of the other users/musicians. It was a HOOT! It was very nice to hear the diverse sounds. The different musical styles and tastes. Since the Bose L1, I don't go out much. I can't stand listening to a noisy conventional PA systems. It's rare that I get an opportunity to sit with fellow users and listen to the music we all enjoy, through the systems that we have come to love. Everyone sounded great and the talent was everywhere. I would like to do this more often. I hope the rest of the world learns what they are missing soon and I can start going out more, knowing that I will be hearing something pleasant.
Col. Andy - Congrats! It was amazing, shocking, 60 seconds of WOW! From the time Ken announced that the grand prize drawing was for a complete MII, and when the name was called - I don't think anyone had time to think about anything. In hindsight, I would have liked to have won it, because Pete has supplied The Cubs with the three systems we use now and it would have been a nice contribution from me, back to the band... but, I am glad you did win. Your humble approach to what some of us call "The Rat Race" of music, makes you the candidate for such a wonderful prize. It couldn't have gone to a nicer, more deserving person. The expression on your face was priceless. Again, thank you Bose. This was another example of why Bose leads all the others in user relations/satisfaction. Another unselfish surprise to cap an already extremely enjoyable day. Besides, I drew my own name ( ) and won a jacket that has already proven it's worth. Not only is it a very nice jacket that allows me to shout out to the world that I am a Bose fan, but it does keep you dry. Sunday afternoon I spent on the highway, doing what I enjoy when I'm not playing music... and strapped to the back of my bike was my new Bose jacket that kept me dry during a 20 minute down pour of rain on my way home. At 60mph on the highway, the rain just bounced off
Again, thanks to all the people involved. Thanks to all the new friends I made and really hoping we can do this again soon!This message has been edited. Last edited by: Dickie Ray,
"The Cubs" - The all Bose band by Choice. If Bose had not designed the "L1", we would not be playing. (Rick - Guitar/Vocal)
Sounds like you all had a terrific time! Thanks for sharing the stories, and congratulations to Andy! BIG score! Enjoy...!
Celtic Folk Noir
Let me add my congratulations to Nathan for a job well done and my thanks to the Bose guys and all the musicians and everyone else that made it a great day. Talk about some talented folks, remarkable sound, and great music; it was all in St. Louis!
I made a good number of new friends, learned a thing or three, heard some great music, and played some myself. It was a very good day indeed.
I'm looking forward to doing it again!
It was a great demonstration of the technology. I just wish I had known about it sooner so that I could have spent more time there. I had too much already planned during the afternoon. I really wanted to catch Chris's talk on bass response too.
I'm seriously considering picking up a couple L1 Model 1's with double bass packages now. Soon Bob may not be the only person rocking Schlafly Bottleworks with an L1
Chris "DJ Argyx"
Bottleworks Sunday Spin
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Hi all. We just got back from our extended trip last night. I stumbled in ,logged on to the Bose message board, did my usual "new since your last visit" search and of course was overwhelmed with hundreds of posts. I scanned the St. Louis posts, and it seems that the activities of the meeting have been thoroughly reported. Thanks for all the kind words.
When Pam & I got to the meeting, it was almost like attending one of my school reunions, where you already know everyone. I suppose it is because we all have two things very much in common, music and Bose.
I want to thank the organizers of the event for the legwork and selection of such an excellent venue. Nathan did a great job as MC, and is also a great singer. The talent of all the attendees was awesome and L1's made everyone shine. With 4 or 5 systems working, electric drums, guitars etc., it was never too loud to talk over, never made my ears ring, and every note and word clear as a bell.
We spent the next 4 nights in Memphis and Nashville eating BBQ and listening to music. We heard several great acts, but I wanted to stand up and shout,"Get a Bose!". At one famous Beale St. bar, I had to resort to plugging my ears.
I think Bose must screen their employees to include great outgoing personalities in their profile. Ken, Neil, and Chris are so friendly and informing. I plan to spread the word around the local musicians about Chris's demo of the "dead spots" in the room.
My thanks to Bose and all for the great event, and of course for the great door prize.
I'm a lucky guy!!
Yes, I've spent quite a bit of time reading the posts there. That is where I got the idea the Model I's misht be a better fit for my DJ work then the Model II's (not to mention keep the purchase under the wife's radar hehe). Cap is a really great resource by the way.
Chris "DJ Argyx"
Welcome back from vacation Andy!
It was so great meeting and talking with you and Pam and hearing you perform. I really wish we'd been able to spend the night and get more time with you all. I will be uploading some of your (and other's) video clips to my website video folder and you can download & post them when and where you wish. I am just beginning to go through Nathans tapes so it might be a bit, but I'll get there.
For now, here is a clip of Nathan sitting in with The Cubs on Only The Lonely.
Go Cubs and Nathan! Great harmonies, and Nathan's voice and range blow me away. It was sure great meeting you and everyone.
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