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Hi everyone - I hope it's okay to ask this question here; if not, let me know. I'm using my T1 connected to my computer to do some recording in Audacity. I'm doing a straight line recording from my guitar pickup (LR Baggs Element on a Larriveé L-03) into the T1 and to the computer via USB from there. When I play back what I've recorded, I hear some static in places (almost like the guitar pickup battery needs replacing, except I already tried that) and/or the recording seems to slow down slightly and then skip and catch back up with itself in places. Any ideas about what's going on here? I'm sure it's not the T1; it is possible, though, that my computer is overloaded and cluttered up w/ too many files and programs, and trying to record a WAV file is overtaxing it. I can look into having the machine cleaned up by a computer tech (I'm pretty uninformed about doing it myself), but if you have any other ideas, they'd be most welcome.

Also, on a totally different subject, I used my L1 Classic for the first time at my church earlier in August with a full sanctuary and it sounded awesome. I posted several years ago w/ questions about whether this was a good idea or whether I should just keep using the church's system b/c it's such a big room. They just invested in new array speakers and I really wish they'd shopped around a little more (as in, considered BOSE!) b/c they paid way too much money for something that sounds pretty bad, and trying to hear yourself play through those things live is a nightmare. The L1 was *way* better than the house system. I'm now talking to them about buying my classic from me so I can be done w/ all the hauling back and forth when I play there... and then I can buy a model II for myself for other gigs Smile

Thanks again...
 
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Hi Rebecca,

Don't know about the scratchy sounds but for the skip and catch up part...

Do you hear it that if you do the playback with headphones or the computer speakers without the T1 attached to the computer?

Also, if you are running
T1® USB from Computer
Left: Channel 4/5
Right: Channel 4/5

try
Left: Master
Right: Master

How're you doing?

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Originally posted by VinsGirl:
The L1 was *way* better than the house system. I'm now talking to them about buying my classic from me so I can be done w/ all the hauling back and forth when I play there... and then I can buy a model II for myself for other gigs


Sounds like a good plan to me. Everybody wins.
 
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Rebecca,
I would bet that the problems you are having with the playback of your recordings is due to the sampling rate of Audacity vs. the sampling rate of the T1. This drove me absolutely nuts in GarageBand until one of the at-Bose guys alerted me to the problem here on this forum.

The T1 has a sampling rate of 48 kHz. I was recording in GarageBand on my Mac. GarageBand only accepts devices with a sampling rate of 44.1 kHz. I was having the exact same problems that you are describing: distortion, slowing down, etc.

I haven't worked with Audacity so I don't know if there is a way of selecting the sampling rate of your interface. I bought Apple's Logic Pro because that allows me to select the sampling rate of my audio interface so I can still record with my T1.

Here is an article that came up when I did a Google search on "sampling rate of Audacity."

Changing Audio Sample Rate in Audacity

But having not used Audacity, I don't know if this refers to the sampling rate of the interface or not.

If you can't change the sampling rate of the audio interface in Audacity, sadly you will either need to get different software to record with your T1 or use a different audio interface to record in Audacity.

Hope that helps,
Matt
 
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Y'all are awesome, as usual Smile ST, thanks for the reply - I haven't had a chance to try unplugging the T1 and listening through the computer (probably will this afternoon), but that could help. I was using the headphones in Master already b/c they're old and don't have left and right channels (so 4/5 wouldn't have worked). My music partner also said that he's had trouble w/ recording stuff on occasion b/c his wireless internet connection seems to interfere, and I am working on a laptop so I'll investigate that as well. And I'm good - thanks for asking Smile I've got dates booked in early October for a recording studio, which is exciting... *and* it's why I'm trying to record on my computer. I'd like to combine a click track w/ basic chords for some of the songs we're recording and then practice my guitar and vocal parts w/ that so I'm really ready once we get into the studio.

Matt - what a great insight! I know Audacity has a sampling rate setting (as you found in your Google search), but I don't know whether it's for the interface or not, either. All I can do is try to , but that may only be for the track I'm recording and not for the interface itself. Still, I definitely didn't know the T1 samples at the higher rate, so thank you very much for that. I've used a very old piece of software in the past for recording w/ the T1 (CoolEdit, which perhaps also samples at the higher rate) and I didn't have this problem, so I may have to go back to that, but I'm hoping no b/c Audacity is much easier to use for multitrack recording.
 
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Hi Rebecca,

We have some notes about Audacity and the T1®.


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Originally posted by VinsGirl:
I've got dates booked in early October for a recording studio, which is exciting...


Good for you!
 
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You're a gem, ST... thanks so much Smile That page confirms Matt's theory about the source of my problem - I had my project set to 44.1 kHz but was trying to record in stereo. Yay!
 
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Okay, clearly I'm in over my head further than I thought. I've set the project default to 48 kHz and have tried the sample rate at both 24 bit and 32 bit; I'm not sure if that matters. ST, I read the page you linked me to but I have to confess that I don't really understand what that information is telling me (beyond the 48 kHz setting). I've never adjusted anything under the Preferences area of the T1. I have my guitar plugged into channel 1 on the T1; Preferences / USB to PC was originally set to Master for both L and R. First I tried putting L on Ch1, and then I tried putting both L and R on channel 1 (as I'd already tried leaving both on Master). I'm not even sure what I'm doing by making these changes; it seems to not affect the recording at all. If it's worth trying to explain to me what that's accomplishing, I'd definitely like to know because the recording seems to come out the same no matter how I have these settings selected.

That being said, I'm still getting awful static and jumping/skipping sounds in the guitar recording I make (even trying a variety of combinations of the steps above). I think I've figured out that the problem has something to do w/ the click track in Audacity: the guitar records fine if I don't use a click track, but when I turn the click track on and then record my own track, it sounds terrible. When I play the 2 back together, the volume of the click track gets louder when it's playing with my recorded track and then softer when it continues on after the recording ends. I've tried turning the volume of the click track down when I record but it didn't help anything; the guitar still sounds awful. Any other ideas?
 
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Okay, I might've just answered part of my own question. In Audacity, I've been setting the record device to the T1 and the playback device to the speakers on my computer. I decided to try switching both of those settings to Audacity's default settings, which is something called Microsoft Sound Mapper (Input and Output, respectively). This seems to have completely eliminated all of the static; I'm not positive about the skipping in the track I'm recording, but that very well may be fixed as well (have to do some more recording to be sure). But again, I have no idea why this is so -- that is, why I shouldn't be setting the recording device to the T1 and the playback device to my computer's speakers. Ugh - talk about a learning curve Smile I'll post again if I've discovered the problem isn't completely fixed; if anyone has an explanation, please share Smile
 
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Hi Vinsgirl

I understand you very well regarding Audacity's "learning curve". Some have said it's simple to use Audacity. I found it like trying to untangle fishing line! Grrrrrrrrrrr. I keep things old fashioned and simple. I bought a Tascame CD recorder. I record from the MasterOut on my Tonematch to the recorder. So simple. What ever is coming out of my Bose Speaker is being recorded including any reverb or other effects. When they come out with software that says......"1) press record to record 2) press playback to play your recording back. press 3 to erase...........I will buy it! LOL!
 
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Rebecca,
Here is my advice for you and it is of course worth exactly what you paid for it! If you are serious about home recording I'd say get a different audio interface. I love my T1 for performing but it has mostly been frustrating for me when it comes to recording.

The sound quality of recordings through the T1 is excellent. I got lucky on my first couple of recordings in GarageBand. I didn't have any trouble with the sampling rate and I was thrilled with the recordings. I decided to do a whole studio project, 12 songs, lots of guitar parts, vocals, harmonica, bass, piano, etc. on each song with the T1 and GarageBand.

Right away I started having the trouble you originally posted about, the skipping, static, etc. I posted here and learned about the sampling rate. I wanted the sound quality of the T1 so I spent $500 on Apple's Logic Pro recording software. As I mentioned, that allows me to choose my sampling rate so I can use the T1. I restarted my project using Logic Pro but the parts I'd record with the T1 wouldn't line up. I'd lay down a click track and then record a guitar part. The guitar part wasn't in line with the click track. I could fix in manually but then the next thing I'd record wouldn't line up either! It was quite maddening!

Home recording is hard enough. You have to worry about mic placement, the phone ringing, the air conditioner or furnace kicking in, the fan on the computer running, a plane or helicopter flying overhead, a loud car driving by, a dog barking, the door bell ringing, etc. etc not to mention the part you are playing. You should at least know that when you hit record your equipment is going to work.

I love my T1. It's great for one take, one track recordings. In fact, I used it to record my new live CD but in my opinion, it isn't a very good audio interface for home recording.

My advice would be to look at something like a Lexicon Omega if you really want to get into home recording. The sampling rate on that is 44.1 and it might save you some frustration. At least you would know that your interface is working and you could focus on learning Audacity and on the music you want to record.

Matt
 
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