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For recording and other logistal reasons I decided to give the bass pod xt live another shot. I need some help though here are my questions.

1. I'm going straight into the L1, no front end miced amp. As with the bass pod there is no bose option, is studio direct the right output mode?

2. Is there a best way to set the compressor? I know how to work compressor for vocals, but have never done it with an insrtrument.

3. when going straight in without the pod, I've found that 12 o clock on the remote is where I should be in the mix. How can I approximate this on the pod, as it has it's own volumes?

4. My wife has guitar pod xt live. I purchased the bass expansion, and of course it showed up on here guitar pod for line 6 monkey instead. I tried the transer and that was about an hour ago, how long is the transfer supposed to take?

5. I have the line/amp output switch set to line, is that correct since I'm not in front of an amp, but something closer to a pa?
 
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Originally posted by Ric:
For recording and other logistal reasons I decided to give the bass pod xt live another shot. I need some help though here are my questions.

1. I'm going straight into the L1, no front end miced amp. As with the bass pod there is no bose option, is studio direct the right output mode?
Yes.
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2. Is there a best way to set the compressor? I know how to work compressor for vocals, but have never done it with an insrtrument.

Same way as vocals. Play, listen, adjust.
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3. when going straight in without the pod, I've found that 12 o clock on the remote is where I should be in the mix. How can I approximate this on the pod, as it has it's own volumes?

There's some work to be done here. I suggest you start with one bank and a dB SPL meter. Let's say you start with bank one, set the level of your vocals where you want then start setting the ouput (on the back of the XTLive) to nearly max (switch set to "line").

Now go to patch 1A and adjust the "channel" volume on the XTLive to the level that sounds good (or matches your target on the dB SPL meter) and hit "save". Now go to 1B and have it match the level of 1A. Now go to 1C and match it to 1A ... on and on.
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4. My wife has guitar pod xt live. I purchased the bass expansion, and of course it showed up on here guitar pod for line 6 monkey instead. I tried the transer and that was about an hour ago, how long is the transfer supposed to take?

Not sure but the updates I've done have taken two to three minutes. Contact L6 on that one.
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5. I have the line/amp output switch set to line, is that correct since I'm not in front of an amp, but something closer to a pa?

Yup.

Good luck. I think you're asking all the right questions. You'll be "in command" of the unit soon. Smile

Steve
 
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Ric,
In general, I've found 4:1 ratio to be a good starting point for bass gtr comp (using dbx).

Our bassist uses a "bean" POD, and just turns comp dial up until all strings are smooth.
 
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Thanks again for all the help guys.
O yea, got invited to play a party this coming weekend because of our last party.
 
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Steve;

Some other questions...

As you probably know I use a BassPODxt with an L1/4B1/Packlite.

When I first started doing this, I had to use ch.3/4 because 1/2 were occupied (another vote for four identical channels w/presets!!!) so I had no preset, but now I've got my own L1. I've also got a new bass (a Music Man Bongo).

Just recently I decided to revisit my settings to see if anything can be improved. The Bongo's preamp is so powerful it might sound better if I bypass the amp modeling...I don't actually know.

Since I now have the ability to use presets, should I do so even if I do choose to use amp modeling in the POD? Or should I use 00?

I see also that you recommend "studio direct" instead of "live w/horn" or whatever it is. I think I'm doing the latter...I'll have to try it the other way and see what happens.

Do you have a recommendation on the use of modeling in general with the POD? (i.e., bypass vs. using the models) What about individual amp or cabinet models? Are there any that have proven to work particularly well with the L1?

I know, I know...just do what sounds best. Just wondering if there are any specific recommendations I might not be aware of.


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BTW...re compression:

The BassPODxt has a number of stomp-box compressor models in addition to the one that's controlled by the "compressor" knob. You can use these in interesting ways by combining the stomp box ones with the overall one...check the manual.


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Steve;

Another question....

I was just flipping through the last few pages of the PODXL mega-thread in the Line6 section, and noticed someone mentioning an alternate setup...plug the instrument into the L1 using a preset, then plug the POD into the insert point. Can you comment in this re: bass?


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Andrew,

As you said, "just do what sounds best" ... I'll add ... "to you". What sounds great to me may not be your cup of tea.

Okay, let me see if I can help steer your journey a bit. I'm not fully versed on the bass version but I know know the guitar version pretty well and the two operate very similarly (in fact I can download the "bass pack" and turn mine into the bass XTLive ... I think).

I would definately go with Studio Direct for the output mode. You can try the horn version but I'll bet it rolls off a bunch of highs.

Amp models can really change the tone a lot. The nice thing about the XTLive stuff is that you can turn them on and off as you like. I recommend having a bank or two for "with amp models" and a bank or two for "just effects". For example, I have banks 1~7 that have amp models (1A~D is Marshall amps, 2A~D Vox, 3A~D Fender, etc.) and then banks 17 and 18 are just effects, that is, all amp models are turned off.

I think you'll want to run preset #00 with the amp models on. If you find you're using the XTLive for effects only, then noodle with the bass presets.

That's how I suggest you go about it. Of course, to come full circle, your idea of great bass tone for you might be very different than mine ... that's the beauty of music.

Enjoy the journey!
Steve
 
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Just so no other bassist make the mistake I did. On my first #4 question......

It seems the problem is that the "bass Expansion," model pack isn't for bass guitar at all, but to enable a guitar xt live to be able to be used like a bass or something, so it's not for the bass pod xt live at all.

How stupid is that. Bass players always get the shaft.
 
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That's not quite right.

The expansion pack is not for the BassPODxt Live simply because the BODxtLive already has everything that's in the expansion pack.

It is definitely for bass guitar. It enables bassists to use the guitar version of the POD as if it were a BassPOD, by giving us bass amp and cabinet modeling that's identical to the BassPOD.

The pack contains nothing more than all of the amp and cabinet models that are already in the BOD.

It does not enable a guitar to be used "like a bass or something."

There are other differences between the guitar version of the PODxt Live and the BassPODxt Live, such as the stomp boxes that are included, the way the outputs are set up, and a few other things. These might or might not be pertinent, depending on how you use it.

I just scored the guitar version of the xtLive on ebay for a decent price and I'm going to try it (with the bass expansion pack) to see if it can replace my existing BassPOTxt and shortboard. Fewer boxes, plus I'll have the L1 output mode.

We shall see.


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Hello,
I was wondering if any one else who uses the Bass Pod xt can help me.
When I use the Highway 100 and 200 amp sims the high-mid control does nothing at all,in the book it is ment to ajust the shelving levels and high-mid but does not.

Could on of you nice people check this out for me (hope my pods not faulty)Line 6 have not helped one bit.

Many thanks.
 
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