Pbass and Eminence EUB -> Sansamp Paradriver -> Packlite -> Euphonic Audio wizzy 12" cab

the wizzy is 4ohms and rated for 200W so this is a perfect match. Most cabs are 4ohms or not as efficient as the Wizzy. The packlite and the wizzy put out an astounding amount of clean punchy bass

I played two gigs this weekend and the packlite rocked it with plenty of headroom to spare:

1. 8 piece salsa band, no PA support. medium sized venue.

2. 4 piece rock band, no PA support. small venue.

I was juiced. The packlite with the paradriver and a single wizzy sounded great. This will be my preferred rig for most gigs and all rehearsals.

Hi smarvelous,

That's a great application of the Packlite. Have you played through an L1 yet?

Dan

What if sansamp paradriver into packlite into panaray 802 for upright with schertler stat-b pickup?

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Originally posted by arvzar:
What if sansamp paradriver into packlite into panaray 802 for upright with schertler stat-b pickup?

hi and welcome arvzar,

The situation you described is missing a key component - to run an 802 you need a Panarray Controller to provide the correct EQ curve - without it the sound will not be right.

Have you tried playing your upright through an L1 at all? I think based on the components you mentioned it would not be much more expense or weight to have a 2-B1 L1 model I set up. We have many, many delighted upright bass players using L1's.

Tell us some more about your set up and what type of music you play.

Sincerely,
-MikeZ

Hi Mike,
I was one of the first ones to buy the PAS system.
I liked the sound very much, but it was not small enough for traveling. I just purchased a packlite and a sansamp paradriver (coming in the mail today), and I'm looking to get a loudspeaker where I can raise it on a stand. The 802 seems like a good match for power. How large is the controller?
Thanks.

I understand now...

The Panarray controller is a 1U typical 19" rackmount device.

The 802 is an OK match to a Packlite as long as you use a controller as I mentioned.

Mike

Thanks Mike,
Does Bose make a compact controller ( One that I could throw in my gig bag)? The rackmount would be too large. I'm trying to minimize my setup for size and weight. This would be ideal.
Thanks again,
az

Sorry az - we don't. The 802 isn't meant to be part of a compact rig like you are describing.

Do you already have an 802, or are you looking t purchase this whole rig from scratch?

Mike

OK,
So I got a sans amp paradriver going into two packlites running in series going into an 8ohm 400watt SWR Goliath Jr III 2x10 cab. It's not giving the juice I expected. It seems that when I just connect one packlite, it seems to be much louder than with the two running in series. What am I doing wrong? I've connected the two amps just as it says in the manual... Out of the sansamp (with supplied balanced cable), into input of packlite1, out of thru of packlite1 (with supplied balanced cable), into input of packlite2, out of speakon into cab.
Please give me some advice.
Thanks,
az

Hi arvzar

It sounds like you have the PackLites running in parallel and that you do not have a speaker connected to the first PackLite.

To get the benefit of two PackLites you need a cabinet for each one or to do some re-wisring of the cabinet you have now.

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I agree with ST. Each PackLite needs a speaker circuit of its own (min. 4 ohms) to be useful. They are not designed to be run in series. Right now the first PackLite is acting as a (very expensive) connector between the first and second TRS balanced cable.

...Mark

Ever one for 'correctness' -- the two Packlites *are* connected correctly, but they are actually in parallel, not in series. That is, the two connections on the A1 (Input and Thru) are really just tied together, making them behave exactly as if you ran a "Y" out of the source, with separate cables to each A1. Having two connections makes adding multiple A1's easy, but it really is (electrically) a parallel connection.

So, when you think of the A1's as being "parallel" connected, it makes more sense that you have to have a speaker (or two) connected to each one of them -- because they truly operate independently.

By the way, the same thing is true of two B1's connected to a single A1 (or an L1) -- they really are electrically in parallel as far as the amp is concerned, even though you might think you are connecting them in series (because you connect the A1 to the first B1, then connect the first B1 to the second B1). The two connections on the B1 are identical; they are "parallel connected" inside the cabinet.

Oh, one further note, arvzar:

Don't try making a custom pair of Speakon cables to connect the output of both A1's to a single Speakon connection on the Goliath -- you'd just be connecting a single cable from the output of one amp to the output of the other ... a really hazardous thing to do.

Furthermore: the first item from the Goliath Owners manual (Manuals page, with the Goliath PDF manual here ) in the "Important Information" section says:

"ONLY connect one amplifier to your bass speaker
enclosure(s). Two amplifier outputs connected together
may damage your equipment."

The manual further goes on to explain (page 6) that the multiple inputs are wired in parallel. Since there are 3 speakers in that cabinet (two 10" and a horn), you'd have to do some serious internal re-wiring to be able to drive each 10" separately. You'd be better to just get a second Goliath cabinet ... or just get a pair of B1's for each A1.