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I have been experimenting with the PAS output setting on a POD XT Live, and I don't get it.

The "Studio out" setting works fabulously with my L1 system. It's also extremely compatible with my other gear, sounding equally good as a DI into my recording gear, a conventional PA, or with headphones.

The PAS output setting totally upsets the low frequency balance, forcing me to re-work all my patches.

But those reworked patches sound horrible if I switch back to "Studio output" in order to work with other gear.

Thinking that this was a "bass-only" issue, I tried the same experiments with my guitars, and it's the same deal.

I don't understand why Line 6 would program such a vastly different tonal balance into the "PAS output" setting.

Can anyone on this board explain what the supposed advantage of the PAS output setting is? The L1 is a pretty flat-response system, so why the weird EQ?
 
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You may have noticed that Line6 has not put a Bose output mode into any of the BassPOD series.

I was curious too and got a PODxtLive with the bass pack to see what it would sound like, and yep...with bass it doesn't work very well.

It does work really well with guitar, though. Tonight I played with some new guys and plugged the guitarist's Strat into my PODxtLive, punched up some of Chuck Nemitz's L1-specific patches that are designed for the Bose output mode and...it was great.

I guess they just weren't thinking of bass when they tweaked the EQ for the L1. That's really all it is, right? Just some additional EQ to voice the thing for different amplifiers. Not unlike Bose's presets.


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If you tuned up your sound on the "studio direct" output setting, then you've done all the EQ stuff to make it sound right through a Bose L1. If you had started with the "Bose PS-1" you would hav had less EQ changes to make.

The beauty of this stuff is that there is no right way. The "Bose PS-1" setting is there to make sure the preprogrammed sounds are good right away.
 
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I've also been very confused by the BOSE PAS output setting. Really sounds horrible to me, and I can't figure out its usefulness - as hard as I tried to convince myself that it was a great combo with my BOSE gear.
 
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No offense intended, but I don't agree with BigKyle.

I took the time again last night to try and program some bass patches specifically for the "BOSE PS-1" output mode, from scratch, and they still sounded too bass light and too nasal. I had to resort to tone control extremes, in order to get even close to good bass tones.

I suspect that the problem is that there is a bass cut on the PS-1 mode, that is too sharp to work with bass instruments.

To be fair, I also tried programming some PS-1 mode patches for guitar, and they worked GREAT. Very airy, very nice.

So, to this point, here's where I stand on PS-1 Output mode:

- For bass-only POD users, I say nix on the PS-1 Output mode. Use Studio Output.
- For people who double on bass and guitar (but don't use both instruments at the same gig), program up a bunch of PS-1 mode patches for your guitar work, and another bunch of Studio mode patches for bass. Switch output modes on a per-gig basis, depending on whether you're going to be playing bass or guitar.
- For people who double, but switch back and forth between both instruments during the same performance, it may be too much trouble to keep bending over in order to switch output modes. If that's the case, program both your guitar and bass patches in Studio mode. All you're losing, is a little bit of "air" in your guitar patches.
 
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It's okay, sometimes I disagree with me too.

If you think something sounds better one way than other, then you're right for you. Follow your bliss. Line6 didn't screw up, your ears are just tuned in to something else.

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Originally posted by BigKyle-at-Bose:
It's okay, sometimes I disagree with me too.

If you think something sounds better one way than other, then you're right for you. Follow your bliss. Line6 didn't screw up, your ears are just tuned in to something else.
Big Grin Big Grin funny!

I am all with you in following your bliss and so on but, I am not sure about the ear part.... Big Grin

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