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Ric
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So, anyway I just got through eq'ing the mix for my bands lastest album.

I record my bass with my pod direct in for sake of ease. My L1 +pod sounds better, but I didn't want to deal with micing issues.

I found that when EQ'ing my bass track it sounds much more bassy and throaty and just better if I boost the the low end at 39 hrtz (closest number to 40 on the dial) It really sounded good.

So my question is this.

Live with my bose L1, to avoid bass boom and make the whole band mix clear I usually have to cut out a decent amount of, "low," on the model one remote. So, would it be pointless to add some 40hrtz eq on my pod? Since I'm already cutting low end? I'm guessing the, "low," knob isn't frequency specific, just a general band for the all the low frequencies?

I guess my real question is, if I boost the 30hrtz in my pod, and cut the lows on the remote, will I see an improvement in the bass sound and still get a cut in boominess? Or will one adjustment be undoing the other?
 
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Hi, Ric:

a) Try it! Let your ears decide.

b) When you cut the Low EQ with the R1 Remote, is that "boom" you're trying to eliminate from the whole group, or just your instrument?

If it's just your instrument (bass), then -- not knowing anything about the capabilities of the 'pod' -- could you use a 'notch' on the pod to eliminate the "boom", rather than the more general, broader "Low EQ" on the Remote?

It the pod has only one EQ control that you can adjust both "center frequency" and the gain/cut, then there are two combinations you can try:

(1) Cut with the Remote, Add with the Pod (which is what you are proposing above).

(2) Add with the Remote, Cut with the Pod (at a different frequency, of course, than used with alternative #1).

If you had a T1, you'd have not only a notch filter, but you also have somewhat "tighter" EQ controls, after selecting a Bass guitar Preset, to better tailor your sound for different situations. But you may be able to do much the same thing with your 'pod'.

Regarding the R1 Remote "Low" EQ: I don't know if it is "shelving", "hinged", or a "sliding hinge" ... or something else.
 
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Originally posted by Dan Cornett:
Hi, Ric:

a) Try it! Let your ears decide.

b) When you cut the Low EQ with the R1 Remote, is that "boom" you're trying to eliminate from the whole group, or just your instrument?

If it's just your instrument (bass), then -- not knowing anything about the capabilities of the 'pod' -- could you use a 'notch' on the pod to eliminate the "boom", rather than the more general, broader "Low EQ" on the Remote?

It the pod has only one EQ control that you can adjust both "center frequency" and the gain/cut, then there are two combinations you can try:

(1) Cut with the Remote, Add with the Pod (which is what you are proposing above).

(2) Add with the Remote, Cut with the Pod (at a different frequency, of course, than used with alternative #1).

If you had a T1, you'd have not only a notch filter, but you also have somewhat "tighter" EQ controls, after selecting a Bass guitar Preset, to better tailor your sound for different situations. But you may be able to do much the same thing with your 'pod'.

Regarding the R1 Remote "Low" EQ: I don't know if it is "shelving", "hinged", or a "sliding hinge" ... or something else.


Ya, it's just my bass that causes some boominess. It does it pretty regularly on stages. The bass pod xt live does have eq.

I don't know if it would be a good idea to try and find the specific frequencies that cause boominess, because these would likely change from stage to stage. My tone when I cut the low is still really good to my ear, so I am not worried about losing my tone in that respect.

Just wondered if I boosted at 40hrtz if I would be undoing what I did with the low end cut in the first place.
 
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Just wondered if I boosted at 40hrtz if I would be undoing what I did with the low end cut in the first place.
I suspect you may hear a difference -- maybe even in a good way. 40 HZ is the "cutoff" for the B1's, so you would be boosting the lowest sounds you can get from the B1, while still retaining most of the reduction in the "mid-low" frequencies that seems to work well within the band setting.
 
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I don't know if it would be a good idea to try and find the specific frequencies that cause boominess, because these would likely change from stage to stage.
I don't know precisely how easy it is to do so with the 'pod', but one "trick" for such 'notch'-frequency finding is to boost the gain on the 'notch' filter so that you clearly hear the "bad sound" getting worse -- then switch from a "gain" to a "cut" ... (that "trick" is noted in this forum and the wiki for the T1, but it works with any 'notch' filter where you have a variable center frequency and a +/- gain control).
 
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Ric
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Ah, thanks for the tip. So, it's similiar to ringing out a pa.
 
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What is the B1's frequency range / response?

Peace
 
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Hi rsm,

The frequency range of what is sent to the B1 will vary depending on the model of L1® you connect it to, and how you do that.

You will want to read this article about the various things that happen as you connect different things to the B1 connection and the Bass Line Out.

I know that you are researching the Model II so please see this article in the wiki for all the details.


Model II Bass Line Out


Please let me know if this answers your question.
 
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