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Hi, i just want to tell you that me and my band have bought 2 L1 Compact and a Soundcraft EFX 12 and it sounds amazing. In my opinion there are no problems using a Soundcraft mixer together with the L1 Compacts. |
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Hi Jannes,
Great to hear that you are getting a great sound with the compacts. I assume that you are just using the Compacts for vocals, which will make a difference regarding levels etc. Can you tell me what like the Soundcraft EFX 12 is. I'm using an older model, Spirit FX16, which may be different in terms of incompatibility with the sound and levels i'm getting. Scot |
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Hi Scot,
actually we use keyboard(NordStage88), banjo, cajón, bodhrán and 2 acoustic guitars and everything is amplified whit our 2 L1 Compact. We are not using any backgrounds or other drums than mentioned. I think one of the hardest thing to get used with is the volume, we don't need to play as loud as before, the audience will here everything in a lower volume and i believe this will take some time to be familiar with. Janne |
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To me, this is a profound insight. What's amazing is how fast you got it. Ken |
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These guys have some great ideas and comments.
I’ve been using Bose sound reinforcement since 1976 (802’s etc.), the L1 for several yeas and just picked up the compact. The biggest adjustment that I had to make was getting my head wrapped around the Bose technology not move air the way that I’m used to with conventional systems. Rather than move air to at the audience, it seems to excite the air around the audience. It didn’t take long to get used to it. The issue didn’t seem to be volume and watts as much as distribution and clarity. So my audiences hear it without them having to endure a huge SPL with ear spitting highs and deafening lows. If I need to sound like a ’67 Camaro with a 1500 watt kicker in the trunk I can add Bose Base mods, or use a conventional system. |
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Hi Ken I be more and more impressed of the L1 Compact :-) First gig report: Last saturday evening me and my band was playing on a local pub with a really small stage(2x3m), we used 2 L1 Compact and a Soundcraft EFX12 as a PA. We used 4 vocal microphones(Shure SM58), 2 acoustic guitars, 1 banjo and 1 Clavia Nordstage 88 keyboard and i'm even more impressed of the sound in this PA. I think this was the best stage sound i've ever heard and we got a lot of nice creds for the sound and the volume of the sound. We haven't get used to the low volume needed yet but we will learn :-) Another really nice thing is to don't have to work as a bodybuilder when setting up the equipment, we also got a lot of space in the van. I'm really satisfied with L1 Compact and i don't think we need more power than this. Next weekend we will play outdoor and i will give you a short report from this one too. Janne Edit L1c → L1 Compact - System Naming This message has been edited. Last edited by: Forum-Admin, |
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Hi Ken, What i mean is that on stage you hear eveything nice and clear but not that loud as you are used too and because of this you got a feeling that the volume out to the adience is too low but it isn't. The monitor sound i'm used to is either too loud or too muddy. I have been playing in different bands since the seventies and this L1 Compact monitor sound is the best i've ever heard(excuse me for calling it monitor sound, in fact it is the sound). Even when we practice in a really small room in my cellar the sound is great at a very low volume, that's great for our tinnitus :-) I'll be in touch Janne Edit L1c → L1 Compact - System Naming This message has been edited. Last edited by: Forum-Admin, |
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Gary said: "Rather than move air to at the audience, it seems to excite the air around the audience."
This may be the best way I've heard it described. I've talked in the past about the sound 'enveloping' or 'wrapping around' me and the listeners but I really like this way of phrasing it. No matter how you put it though, the result is usually an immediacy and connection unlike when other systems are used IMO. |
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T-Shirt: Real men and women mix in the air, not in a wire. |
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Might work for astronauts too, Ken.
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Second gig report: Last Sunday we played outdoor in a small park and the power was enough here too(volume at 10 o'clock). Setting up the system took 15 minutes and we did the soundcheck in the first song(not optimal). There was some musicians in the audience and i will not be surprized if you got a couple of new L1 Compact owners in a while, they was really impressed how so small equipment could sound that great. I'm now convinced that this system will fulfill our needs for all possible situations. Janne Edit L1c → L1 Compact - System Naming This message has been edited. Last edited by: Forum-Admin, |
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I just wanted to read it one more time...profound! |
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Hi again Scot, excuse me for missing your question about Soundcraft EFX 12. This mixer is a compact mixer with Lexicon effects built in, it's quite simple with no sub groups but it works really good for us as a live mixer. The mixer fit in a 19" case and this is great for transport. I have no experience of other Soundcraft mixers but hopefully Soundcraft can give you some information about the differences. There is 12 mono channels on the EFX 12 + 2 stereo channels and if i remember right there is 2 mono channels and 1 stereo channel we don't use. The reason for this is that we use a lot of different instruments when we play like, keyboard, 2 guitars, banjo, bodhrán, cajón, thin whistles, ukelele, saxophone and some other percussion. Regards Janne |
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Maybe chiming in too late, It may be different in the dj world, but I never ran my dj type mixer or band type mixer main at unity 0db. It was too hot of a signal. I would suggest backing it down halfway on the mains of the soundcraft and then doing anything on the other channels on the soundcraft where you want. I find that any signal too hot will make the red come on faster. Set the compacts at noon on channel 2. When I first got my L1's, I tried to run them the old conventional way of thinking. PS trim all the way up, main mixer volume at infinity 0db. It sounded awful. I came on here and found out why. Hope it helps. |
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Hi Dynamite DJ's, Thanks for your input on this, i realise i am new to the Bose concept and i am looking for more advice on matching equipment etc, to get the results i'm looking for. |
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