This may be obvious, but can the T1 be used without the rest of the Bose system?
A friend needs exactly such a mixer/processor but isn't ready to buy the entire system. He wants to use it as a mixer for powered p.a. speakers.
Thanks,
DonM

Yes.

Don,

I've been bouncing the same question around in my head too... I have a gig where I think I could just tap my T1 into the house system.

From what I've read, I haven't been able to see a reason why you couldn't...

There's a line level TRS analog out and a Aux out on the back of the unit which is used to plug the T1 into a Model I or Classic, or an outboard effects unit... Perfect to jack into any powered speaker as well, I imagine.

But I've got my gears turning...
What if you want to do stereo?

The thought that's dancing around in my head is to set up a T1 "scene" which sends some signal of each channel to Aux, or what I'll consider "left", as well as the main signal, which I'll treat as "right." This way, I could take a stereo reverb effect on my guitar, send the left signal to channel 2 and the right signal to channel 3. Then I could tweak the mix and send channel 2 to Aux and channel 3 to Main... all the while blending my voice on channel 1 into both Aux and Main. This settings I could preserve in a "scene", and call up again next time I play there.

Considering the features you're getting here with effects and compression, I can't think of a better mixer for a small job like this.

Am I way of the mark? Friends-at-Bose?

Thanks,
I'll pass it along!
DonM

The T1 pre-sets are created for the Bose speakers, so may or may not sound fine with a different system. From what I have read, everything else should be ok.

Will,
I missed your post before answering, I suppose because of the wait period.
Anyway, I'm like you--can't see any reason it wouldn't work. I hope someone from Bose will jump in here and give an opinion. I know that's now why the designed it, but . . .
DonM

Could an At-Bose respond to Will's theorizing? I'm interested to know if individual channels can be shunted to either the aux or master outputs in order to create a stereo sound.

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Originally posted by SoloAce:
Could an At-Bose respond to Will's theorizing? I'm interested to know if individual channels can be shunted to either the aux or master outputs in order to create a stereo sound.

Will's theorizing is certainly possible. You can create a stereo mix out of the T1 in this way. Since the T1 isn't designed to be a stereo device, the process is particularly elegant - but it can be done.

MikeZ

Thanks, Mike.

That's why I love saving those scenes... setting this up will be pretty inelegant... but only once.
I'll just save it and come back to that setting in a few weeks when I return to that gig.

Thanks, Mike!

[Will: edited for clarity]

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This may be obvious, but can the T1 be used without the rest of the Bose system?
A friend needs exactly such a mixer/processor but isn't ready to buy the entire system. He wants to use it as a mixer for powered p.a. speakers.

Hi Don,

The answer is yes and no. The yes part is that there's lots of output options on the T1 that can interface with any pro or consumer audio equipment, including two digital audio channels on the USB port.

The no part is that you will not have the benefits of an L1™ loudspeaker system.

With best regards,

Ken

Moved Reply:

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The T1 pre-sets are created for the Bose speakers, so may or may not sound fine with a different system.

The active EQ for the L1 speaker is built into the powerstand. You can always set the preset to "flat" on the T1 when using with a system other than the L1.
Robert L

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Originally posted by Robert L: The active EQ for the L1 speaker is built into the powerstand.

Some optimization (by active EQ) with respect to an optimal (linear) frequency response, and some dynamic processing with respect to protect the system and simplifiaction of different setups (0/1 up to 4 B1) is done in the powerstand.
This is why you can feed every L1 (classic, model I or model II) with an analog cable from any mixer.

What's done in the T1 is the ToneMatch zEQ which means that "High," "Mid," and "Low" controls are not at fixed frequencies. "zEQ" automatically shifts the range of these controls to correspond directly to the range of your instrument (indicated by a selected ToneMatch preset).

Further the ToneMatch presets are done in the T1 (similar to the presets in the L1 classic), which attempt to get the best out of each microphone or instrument. - Why?
Most instruments are "tuned" to the behaviour of the speakers and amplification systems of the last couple of years, which are in general not comparable to the high fidelity quality of the L1. As far as I know, one concern of the presets is to match this "tuning" of mic's and instruments to the new quality of the L1.

You'll find more information about the ToneMatch audio engine at the BOSE website.

Wolfgang

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Wolfgang,

If I am reading you correctly, the Z Eq settings will enhance the tonal quality of your instrument with any high quality audio source??

My thoughts are to use the T1 in recording as well as with my L1 Classic, to optimize my Taylor 615 CE and my EV767a Mic.

I think you are saying that my idea would work.

Thanks for any input.

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Originally posted by Kings Court: If I am reading you correctly, the Z Eq settings will enhance the tonal quality of your instrument with any high quality audio source?? ...

Gordy,

depending on which ToneMatch preset you have choosen, the zEQ will determine the frequency of the "High," "Mid," and "Low" controls:
e.g. the "High" using a microphone preset may be at 10 kHz, while the "High" using a guitar preset may be at 6 kHz (no real values, only for example!).
The advantage I would expect from the zEQ is, that for a certain source (mic, guitar, keyboard, flute etc.) I will have max. tone control on the frequencies which are the most relevant for this source.

Using a ToneMatch preset gives you some enhancement of the tonal quality (not the zEQ) but requires a high quality sound system like the L1 (regardless which model) or in your case recording.

If you are looking at Using the T1 audio engine with the Model I system you'll read:

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Originally posted by MikeZ-at-Bose: The benefits of the T1(tm) are many, much more than just presets. You have studio-quality effects, a chromatic tuner, zEQ( a new kind of equalization tied into the ToneMatch(tm) presets - we will talk more about this)...the list goes on.

or at What is ToneMatch technology? where you read:

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Originally posted by MikeZ-at-Bose:

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Originally posted by Reso_Ralph:
Do the channel outputs in the T1 send out the signal WITH or WITHOUT the presets?

The preamp outs for Channels 1,2,3 on the T1(tm) are WITHOUT presets. They are direct pre-amp outs to send to a house/recording/etc. board without any EQ or effects. The assumption is that you are sending these signals to a speaker other than an L1, and so you may not want the preset EQ.

The master out will be post everything and will include presets, EQ, effects.

The aux out can be assigned to either 'Dry', jut like the preamp outs, Pre-Fader with effects and EQ (but no master fader), or Post-Fader, which includes effects, EQ and the position of the channel fader.

So I'm pretty shure that your idea will work.

Wolfgang

Wolfgang,

Thanks for the info. I will likely be getting one for Christmas. I want to take some time off my regular job and do some recording early next year.

I am looking forward to it.

great stuff here, I don't use my T1 often with out the model II, but when I do. What are the common set ups.
I am using all channels running guitar IN 3 out to 4/5 creating more delays and different tones using ch 1 voc chan 2 stomp box (foot tap)
occasionally i get a swirling, or compression type pump through the system when Stomping on my stomp box.
thanks in advance