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Here are a few notes about some of the settings I have been using for recording with the T1® and Audacity in Windows Vista.



I am looking for any input - comments - corrections - suggestions - and when we have thrashed this out a bit, I'll write it up in the wiki.
 
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First off.

The I have been using Audacity Beta 1.3.4



So if the screens don't match up with what you are seeing, this is probably why.

Download:
http://audacity.sourceforge.net/download/beta_windows
 
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Settings

I was able to record right away without changing any settings - but it just sounded bad. That is, weird, phasey, tinny, too hot, just wrong.

I looked under Edit | Preferences and under Audio I/O

Sounded Bad
MME: Microsoft Sound Mapper - Output
MME: Microsoft Sound Mapper - Input



Sounded Better
MME: Speakers (USB Audio Device)
MME: Line (USB Audio Device)

This seems to have made a direct connection to the T1® instead of the Windows virtual device.

 
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Quality


edit - consider this optional and only of value if you need to run at 48000

Again under Edit | Preferences

Quality.
Default Sample Rate: 488000 Hz

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Interface
Edit | Preferences

Interface
I set this to -96 dB and it seemed to show me a greater range in the graphical representation of the signal input (more difference between soft and loud inputs).

Here is the setting.
 
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That's what I've found that seems to make a difference so far.

This is all really new territory for me so any input would be great.

Thanks!
 
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Thanks for the link to this, am DLing now.
 
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Pretty cool, fired it right up and recorded a vocal track @44,100hz, simple, clean and clear.
Mine shows "Bose USB audio" in prefs.

I really like that the T1 allow you to choose any channel for the USB TO PC. So you can turn down the master and record a really hot signal to audacity without blowing everyone out of the room.
 
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The processor requirements to make this work were surprisingly modest.

I have done several test cuts now with a 3 year old Tablet PC with an Intel ULV processor 1.1 mHz with 2 gigs of ram running Windows Vista. I think the hard drive is 4200 rpm, or maybe 5400 but certainly no faster.


This machine is downright pokey by today's standards.

It seems to be working fine.

I haven't tried Audacity on my Mac yet since I'm mainly using it for my desktop applications.
 
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Hi Pete,


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Originally posted by Drumr:
Pretty cool, fired it right up and recorded a vocal track @44,100hz, simple, clean and clear.
Mine shows "Bose USB audio" in prefs.


Do you have a way that you could post a screen shot of that?
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I really like that the T1 allow you to choose any channel for the USB TO PC. So you can turn down the master and record a really hot signal to audacity without blowing everyone out of the room.


Doing what you described I have been able to get two distinct T1® Channels into Audacity as a stereo pair, and then split them. I haven't quite figured out how to manipulate the individual Audacity track levels or apply any of the effects, but that will come later.
 
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Doing what you described I have been able to get two distinct T1® Channels into Audacity as a stereo pair, and then split them.

I didn't get that far last night, but was wondering how that works...assigning T1 channels 1,2, & 3 at the same time into Audacity.

Yes, I can do a screenshot, will post tonight if I can.

Audacity is really simple, and as you mention is not a processor hog AT ALL! I am finding it a bit limited, being used to Vegas, which is much more intuitive and "draggable", but certainly deeper and more complicated too.
Audacity is going to be really cool for quicky recordings.
 
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Here it is:

Prefs
 
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I did a multi-tracked recording last night using my T1 and Audacity, it went very well for the most part.
A guitarist & I did two songs with 4 and 8 tracks used.

The T1 worked great with my PC, it monitored Audacity without having to push any buttons or route differently as we changed the input configuration into the PC, as can be the case with other digital devices.
The only thing I had to change was what channel on the T1 goes to L & R outputs...very simple.
You can only record two tracks at a time, but that was not a problem in our situation.
The Model II monitored at a nice level, and the level sent to the PC via USB was plenty strong for a good visual look at the waveform.

Audacity was another story.
It's pretty simple to use once I got on to it, but after the first few tracks it began playing back out-of-sync.
Haven't figured out why yet, but the fix was just to drag the file into line with the others...a minor hassle.

The sound quality *seemed* to me to be bit a more *grainy* than recording into Vegas from my Alesis Firewire mixer, but that could just be my ears too, I have no technical proof of any real difference.
We recorded at 16 bit, 44,100hz, it sounded good.

Recording with the Alesis and Vegas is easier and better for me, but I love the look of a T1 on my Desktop.
It's just so high-tech and impressive in it's tiny-ness. I love my incredible shrinking studio.
 
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The problem is with your sound card. Basically it's not doing the clock conversion correctly.

Reply to sync problems at the Audacity Forum.
 
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Hi Drumr Pete,

Audacity beta 1.3.5 is out

http://audacity.sourceforge.net/download/

and you can read about what is new
vhttp://audacity.sourceforge.net/download/features-1.3-a
Maybe this will address the syncing issue you were having.

quote:
New in Audacity 1.3.5

Recording / Playback

* Several bugs fixed so that latency correction should be better, and more devices work correctly.
* Problems with invalid sample rates under Linux should be much rarer.
* Newer version of Portaudio library.
* New feature to record onto the end of an existing track (hold Shift while clicking Record).

Import / Export

* Updated versions of Libogg, Libvorbis, Libflac, Libsndfile and Twolame libraries.
* Handling of unsupported file formats more informative.
* Handling of file names with slashes on OS X improved.
* New dialog allows replacement of illegal file name characters on all platforms.

Interface

* Improved scaling and layout for rulers and VU meters.
* Envelope fixes/improvements including full control of undo/redo.
* New keyboard shortcuts and improved menu navigation.
* Preferences:
o More intuitive tab arrangement.
o New options for mute/solo and Metadata Editor behavior.
o Language can now be changed without restart.
* Expanded Build Information tab.

Effects

* New Vocal Remover plug-in, improvements for Generate effects.

Compilation

* Fixes when building Audacity with libraries disabled.
* Improvements to make Mac and Solaris builds easier.

Security

* Full fix for issue CVE-2007-6061 on systems where temporary directories can be changed by other users (thanks to Michael Schwendt).

Miscellaneous

* Updated translations for many locales.
* Several stability improvements.

 
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Recording with t1 and mod II Vista with good results, but I have to keep Master on T1 up to get strong recording level. You mentioned you don't have to do this? What have I got set wrong? Trying to not rattle the house as well as the neighbors. Appreciate any input. Thanks in advance.
Brgds,
Walt
 
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Just a follow-up.

I was having difficulty getting good recording levels from the T1® via USB in the computer.

I solved this by setting the Master Output to Pre-Master Volume.

This sends the full output of the T1® to the USB port regardless of the setting of the Master Volume Control. This allows you to monitor at comfortable levels through your Model II Power Stand while recording at full volume.

You can find full details about how to change the settings in

T1® Audio Engine / Master Output / Pre /Post
 
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