Hi Tom,

Good idea.

quote:

Originally posted by Tom Munch:
ST,

Can you post some comparative pics of a Model I, Model II, & Compact? I'd especially like to see a B1 next to the Compact & maybe a closeup of the size of the array with extensions next to the other two Cylindrical Radiators.

Tom

Here's a start.

View from the Top



Side by Side


Edit:
NOTE: the scuff marks on the Compact Power Stand - that's actually dust. Sorry about that.

Dimensions compared to a B1

Height — Compact is 2" taller
Compact: 16.5
B1: 14.5 (manual says 15)

Width — Compact is 3" wider
Compact: 13.25
B1: 10.25

Depth Compact is 1" shorter (front to back) [/color]
Compact: 16.75
B1: 17.75

Weight — Compact is .5 lb lighter (3.4 lb lighter than older B1)
Compact: 24.6 lbs (including Speaker Array)
B1: 25.1 lbs
B1 (pre mid-2007) 28 lbs



From the web site

L1 Compact power stand w/loudspeaker array

16.5"H x 13.25"W x 16.75"D ( 41.8 cm x 33.9 cm x 42.6 cm )

24.6 lbs (11.2 kg)


B1 bass module

15"H x 10.25"W x 17.75"D ( 38 cm x 26 cm x 45 cm )

25.1 lbs (11.4 kg)

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quote:

Originally posted by ST:
Hiss Revisited

Yes, it is definitely more pronounced on the microphone channel (Channel 1).

Perhaps?? Maybe?? Could it be noise induced by the mic you are using??

Thanks for the thorough report.

O..

Thanks, ST. That really helps. It's taller & wider than a B1, but shorter front to back.

[edited for typo]

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Hi Oldghm,

quote:

Originally posted by Oldghm:

quote:

Originally posted by ST:
Hiss Revisited

Yes, it is definitely more pronounced on the microphone channel (Channel 1).

Perhaps?? Maybe?? Could it be noise induced by the mic you are using??

Thanks for the thorough report.

O..

The hiss is there, whether or not there is anything plugged into the input.

That is: Volume at 12:00 (this is loud when you actually have an input)

No input = hiss present
Cable only = hiss is still there, about the same
Cable + microphone = Slightly more hiss; not much. You have to be really listening to hear the difference.


Edit: I have just found out that this unit was a pre-production unit. The units in production do not have this issue. See note from Craig-at-Bose below.

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Assembly Clearance

You need 2 inches above the height of the Compact's fully extended height to assemble it.
Compact = 78.5 + 2.0 = 80.5

That is compared to four inches clearance for the
Model II = 84 + 4 = 88
Model I = 82.75 + 4 = 86.75
Classic = 82.75 + 6 = 88.75 (long bayonet setting)

Comparing the overall height - assembled

Model I / Classic: 82.75

Model II: 84 inches

Compact: 78.5 inches





Sorry - the camera angle makes it look like the Model II in the middle is taller than 84".

Side By Side the B1

This handsome unit is 16.5 inches tall, compared to the B1 that is 14.5 inches tall.

From this angle it looks like more than that.



And although it looks like scuff marks on the Compact base plate - that's dust, and not visible to the naked eye.

Looks like we can see the 8" bass speaker & port in the Compact straight on. Interesting...

Also, the weight of the Compact above compared to B1 is with the array installed in the Compact powerstand I think. You might want to include that.

I'm anxious to set all three up side by side for comparison myself.

Hi Tom,

Yes the weight of the Compact at 26.5 pounds includes the Speaker Array. I quoted this data from the website to be clear about that.

quote:

Originally posted by Tom Munch:
Looks like we can see the 8" bass speaker & port in the Compact straight on. Interesting...

Also, the weight of the Compact above compared to B1 is with the array installed in the Compact powerstand I think. You might want to include that.

Done.

quote:

I'm anxious to set all three up side by side for comparison myself.

I'll be interested to read your impressions Tom.

I'm writing a summary of my Compact thoughts and will post that soon.

Anybody got any more questions?

What kind of feet are on the bottom?

Is it similar to the feet on the Model II?

Hi Tom,

Bottom




Close up of the feet under the Speaker Array

Thanks, ST! Looks pretty solid.

This is a great report ST.
Thanks

Good so far. Now, can you disassemble it and place all the components out in a line for examination?

Hi Wayne,

As you've probably figured out, I'm not much of a photographer.

Here's a picture from Bose.



and here's another




Do these show you what you wanted to see?

It looks like the plastic in the base is similar to the plastic in the Model II. Robert Warden said something about the material for this in the videos.

Oops. Sorry ST. I was just making a (bad) joke because you had taken so many photographs I figured the next step was to take some pliers and hammers and tear the Compact apart. Sometimes using the internet doesn't transmit the tongue in cheek...

Capt Banjo

Relax I was thinking the same thing! LOL!

A comment and a question, ST.

To my knowledge, this is the first time Bose has suggested we place a bass enclosure on a table (for certain applications). It seems to me this would reduce bass response (no reflecting surface, like a floor) and invite the table itself to vibrate at certain frequencies.

Even if I sold one of the Compacts for a voice-only application, I think I would recommend a single extension configuration rather than placing the entire unit on a table.

Are you able to compare these two configurations from a performance perspective?

And I assume the Compacts are also manufactured in China. Please keep in mind I am not attaching any negative inferences to this comment. It's just that the final design of this model must have been completed months ago if that is the case. Bose certainly can keep a secret without a single person hinting of a new product coming down the pipe. I applaude your ability to keep your lips zipped, guys-at-Bose.