AJ,

I was using the T1 one time & not the next. I'm not sure what to tell you about room size. I wouldn't hesitate to use it for the average solo gig of 100 people.


O,

In this case it's a C# about 135 Hz.

Tom

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I was using the T1 one time & not the next. I'm not sure what tell you about room size. I wouldn't hesitate to us it for the average solo gig of 100 people.

Hi Tom

Thanks for getting back to me. Based upon your experience I have decided to bring Tonematch, keyboard and 3 mic's. I will put it thru it's paces. I am not so concerned about the feedback that you mentioned as any speaker will feedbac given certain circumstances. I am more concered with the dropoff that you menttion and where that occurs. That will let me know room size vs people numbers. Thanks again for your imput!

AJ

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Hi O,

The porchboard works fine through the compact. It's not great but very usable. After hearing it through 2 B1s or even the extended package with 4, it's hard to compare.

Hi Rick,

I have been tinkering with the Porchboard and Compact. Straight in it is not very satisfying, but I have had some pretty good response with the T1.

I tried a lot of different Para eq settings, have pretty much settled on a boost of about 8 dB at 80 hz, with a width of .2 octave. I am using one of the bass guitar presets. There are minor differences, choose the one that sounds best to you.

I also have the KickGate 1: regular , on.

The Porchboard sounds more like a tom than a bass drum, but I think it is more usable this way. (than straight in)

If anyone else is experimenting, tell me what you find.

O..

Edit to change value of octave width.

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well seems to me..... they're getting kinda closer to a stereo rig... if they made a stereo T1 with aux sends returns... this could be interesting set up and still only $2500 as apposed to my $3400 L1 dual B1 tone match rig..... someone please use two with some stereo mixer and give us a report please....... thank you

Hey ST........... would you be so kind as to hook up the compact and L1 with a stereo mixer and a stereo sampled piano and see if it addresses the issue people are having with their piano's.... if it works out it makes he piano STELLAR.. i'll buy a compact and but it adjacent to the L1.... thank you.....

+1 on the stereo piano. Left side could be L1 with a B1 for the ole left hand walkin' bass trick. (depends where you are sitting I guess)

I meant to update last night. Yesterday I tried the Compact at the same venue & had VERY good results. I don't know if it was the humidity or what, but it filled the space nicely.

Hi Tom,

Don't know why but we seem to be having some of the same issues. One minute I love the Compact, the next it doesn't deliver what I want, sometimes literally one song to the next. It's not something that messes with my gig, but in rehearsal I feel the need to tweak, nearly every song.

You and I both mentioned that we think the Compact is a bit warmer sounding, but Ken said in a public post that it was voiced like the other L1s. I really have to believe that Ken is speaking true about what they measure in their test facilities. Is it the dispersion difference we are hearing or the crossover, or just the variables of venue, wind currents, humidity and the phase of the moon?

Was your VERY good results with, or without, the T1?

Have you created special T1 scenes for the Compact? I think that is my next step, though I am commited to using it as a stand alone system on some occasions.

The Baggs Imix that I planned to put in a 000 sized guitar, will not fit. The onboard control box is too wide to fit in the side, so, I had a Baggs element on hand and installed it. It sounds very good with the Compact preset but the small guitar does not have the neccessary dynamics from soft stroke to heavy struming to be an easy switch from my normal gigging guitar.

Oh well, getting there is half the fun.

O..

O,

My VERY good results were without the T1. I haven't created special scenes yet. I really want to use the Compact without the T1.

There's definitely a difference between the Compact, Classic, & Model II. It's more than the difference between the Classic & Model II. The lows are rounder & the highs are brighter with the Compact. I know Ken says they usually voice them on pre-recorded music. Live guitar & vocals definitely have more dynamics than pre-recorded music & would bring out different sonics in any system.

I had the same experience today at my outdoor gig - plenty of volume & good overall balance.

T

I like my L1c so much, I sold my MII to DRUMMR.

Hey, check out this video I made of a song I wrote about Kitty Middleton, a 17-year-old girl who died in 1951 in an airshow accident at the Minnesota State Fair.
Kitty Middleton

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I meant to update last night. Yesterday I tried the Compact at the same venue & had VERY good results. I don't know if it was the humidity or what, but it filled the space nicely

Hi Tom

Bingo!! Many times I have returned to the same gig and have had a totally different sound which left me scratching my head! BTW....I need input for my keyboard and two mic's so I need to use the ToneMatch with the Compact. Hopefully it will perform well with tonematch.

Have a great day!

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Hey, check out this video I made of a song I wrote about Kitty Middleton,

Hi Earthworm,

Nice job on the song. A moving story and nicely told.

Thanks, Joelheck!
Interestingly, the family contacted me about the song. Kitty's neice wrote to me as did the son of the man who owned the plane.

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I need input for my keyboard and two mic's so I need to use the ToneMatch with the Compact. Hopefully it will perform well with tonematch.

AJ,

It works great with the T1®.

Tom

I have had the opportunity this morning to have my hands and ears all over a Compact. I'll preface my review with these preconceived notions:

I. What is this? It's totally a digression. Why? WHY???

II. Nicely put-together launch material...Hmmm...the more I look at this thing, the more interesting it is...could be very cool.

III. Pete won't be able to resist buying one, if for no other reason than to be able to say that he did.

Which brings us to today:

1. Tiny; lightweight; adorable, really

2. Tiny

3. Crisp...a bit "plastic" sounding initially

3a. I think the crispness (if thought detrimental) is easily-enough rectified with the treble and bass controls

3b. Also, my music room is fairly "hard", so may be a bit harsh with the crisper-sounding unit

3c. The Classic sounds a bit truer in this space...but is also what I am used to hearing.

4. Classic initially sounded almost "muddy" in comparison, but still has more depth, warmth, and...well, a different kind of clarity

5. Number of extensions used in Compact seem to make a difference in sound quality (beyond the obvious elevation differences)

5a. I think this may be where I was getting the "plastic" sound from Note 3. above.

5b. Both extensions yielded more resonance than one, and one more than none.

5c. Not knowing how they are constructed, of course, I would suggest the extensions be filled with some sort of dampening, or foam insulation (still not much weight, there)

6. I was impressed with the sound in the most compact configuration, on the floor, and my ears at standing height; a testament to the characteristics of the multiple-axis, articulated array

7. The compact seems like it would be plenty loud for about anything, I think; Certainly anything I would do.

8. Plenty-o-bass for a baritone voice, and when closing in on the mic for increased presence and bass (affecting the voice, actually), the compact was not lacking at all. I think I am as impressed with the lower frequency output as I am with the portability. I was not expecting much fullness, yet I found plenty. I would not put it on the same level as a "full-size" L1, though, whose frequencies are noticeably broader, and more even in tone to my ears.

8a. I would like to hear acoustic upright bass through it.

9. This thing is totally handy. Where the Model II was, "Oh my gosh, for the increased portability, alone, it is worth having," the Compact is that, and more. For the super-simple user like myself...Ah, we can't get one anytime too soon, but, WOW, this is so much a consideration. I share some of the same "concerns" as other users who wonder why it doesn't have this or that, but have to say it is right on the money for what it is designed to do, and for whom it was created. The fact that it also sounds so good is just icing.

10. Can I keep it?


Pete, being the tremendous individual that he is, "Ha ha'd" my request to keep it, but offered to loan it from time to time. I appreciate the opportunity to give it a once-over today.

N

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Originally posted by mysticradio:
Hey ST........... would you be so kind as to hook up the compact and L1 with a stereo mixer and a stereo sampled piano and see if it addresses the issue people are having with their piano's.... if it works out it makes he piano STELLAR.. i'll buy a compact and but it adjacent to the L1.... thank you.....

(EDIT: another thought) - Couldn't you just run left and right direct out of the piano to a respective left and right L1?

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Forgive me, as I am not ST, nor do I run a stereo piano rig, BUT...

Our GEM Pro2 sounds great in the Compact. It does have a very good mono out to begin with. Never had an issue with the Classic either.

Oh, one more thing concerning integration of Compacts and full-sized L1's: Aurally would be much more successful, in my opinion, than visually. They are too different-looking (again, to me) to look good very close together on stage. My symmetrical mind would be hesitant.

BUT, to each his/her own. It's just me.

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They are too different-looking (again, to me) to look good very close together on stage.

I'll be sure and take some pictures tonight!
Thanks for your thoughts Nathan, I knew you'd be smitten.

Now Nathan, you wouldn't make your ugly kid get out of the picture with the cute one, it's all in the family.

Just kidding. You don't have an ugly kid,... do you?

O..

Yo, O! How goes it?

I appreciate the jest. Thanks! Oh, regarding "ugly kid,"...far from it.

N