Every guitar I've used with the compact produces too much bass and, subsequently, feedback. I have to turn the bass all the way down in the eq and zen on the T1. My gigging friend has the same problem.
Are others experiencing this? I am an acoustic/vocals performer.
Yes, I've experienced a boominess in the bass. I have to cut it back depending on the venue. Get near a corner and it's brutal!
The same can be said for any L1, but yeah, the Compact can be bassy in my experience too.
But I've been using mine at an open mic with an acoustic guitarist, and we haven't had any trouble with bass.
We are set up pretty close to a corner too.
The bar's music room is a typical "strip mall" size, long and narrow.
In this room, the Compact sounds cleaner and better than my Model II.
Last week, we had three guys playing/singing through it at once, no problems.
You are not using a T1 for a mixer...what other mixer are you using with the Compact? Any recommendations?
I'm new to the Compact. One gig out with it so far.
I found myself in a situation where the only place to put it was a corner with glass doors as one wall and a 3 foot glass wall. The bass overwhelmed us where we sat,but sounded fine in the rest of the room.I ended up taking out an extension to bring more high end to my ears.
If you just dial the bass out, the sound in the rest of the room might suffer.
When you have a bass trap ,like a corner, I'm thinking it might sound better to raise the subwoofer off the floor and use one extension.I'm going to experiment with this concept when I've got time. I'm also going to drop a question as to this problem in the "ask Bose for help" section of this forum.
Good luck, O
Bobby, sorry to omit that information...I AM using a T1 mixer with my Compact.
I've owned a number of mixers and mini-mixers over the years, and can only recommend the T1 for use with Bose L1 family sound systems.
Earthworm, have you tried different guitar presets? I play live solo acoustic gigs and have had to tame the bass on my D-28 in certain situations. Different presets have different frequency ranges so rolling all the bass off of one preset can and will have a very different effect than rolling all the bass off another preset. In other words for example, a Martin could possibly sound better using a Taylor preset. As for feedback, if it's a particular problem note such as an open E, I find the T1 notch filter very effective.
"Bobby, sorry to omit that information...I AM using a T1 mixer with my Compact.
I've owned a number of mixers and mini-mixers over the years, and can only recommend the T1 for use with Bose L1 family sound systems."
How are you running all three performers in the T1 Mixer with only 4 inputs? Are you using the other input on the Compact as well?
Just checking - are you using Compact Channel 2 with the ToneMatch switch on (up), when you are NOT using your T1®?
How far are you from the Compact when performing?
I tend to prefer my brighter acoustic guitars when playing through the Compact. I haven't given this a lot of thought but on reflection I almost always pick up my guitar with maple back and sides. It's a basic Larrivée L-body style (similar to a Taylor Grand Concert "14" body).
It's got your basic under-saddle piezo pickup paired up with David Enke's Quackbuster. I also use David Enke's Power Plug preamp but that's primarily so I can have some control over the volume. I only do that when NOT using the T1®.
Anyway - I think that may have found my Compact sound by using a guitar that is nice and bright to begin with.
What kinds of guitars have you tried with your Compact?
When you use the T1® - you should find that any of the Taylor Presets that include "Strum" in the name will have less bass emphasis. Have you tried those?
Yes, I have used my Taylor 914 with the t1 and compact and did find the Taylor strumming presets better. However, still too much boom.
I played a gig in a small restaurant on Saturday and the compact was very close to me...no choice in the matter. I was playing my new Olson SJ cedar top, Brazilian back and sides. A guitar player who was dining told me he was hearing too much bass in the back of the room. Ouch. This was with no T1 and the guitar into ch 2 line level. I didn't want to use the Bose preset on ch 2 because my preamp is great.
I love Bose systems as most people know. Heck, I was the first one on the forums to suggest they make a compact system for those of us playing small restaurants and bars. I wonder if in trying to cover more styles of music, the subwoofer was made more powerful than acoustic guitarists can handle (especially in confined spaces). What do I do? I don't want to leave the Bose family, but have begun thinking I might need to do so.
Good to see you back and active, both here and playing music.
I have experimented a considerable amount with the Compact and my acoustic, various preamps, and use of the preset.
I think using the preset in conjunction with your preamp can be a plus. Think of the preset as a great starting point then tweak as neccessary with your outboard preamp. It will work fine.
I was thinking along those same lines, Oldghm. When I play without my pedalboard, I use the preset on Ch 2 and it doesn't have too much bass. I'll try it this Thursday and get back to you.
I still love Bose and owe the company a lot for how it changed my musical life.
Definitely try that Channel 2 Preset, even with your preamp. I find that it does help with that low end boom.
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