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Hello solo and duo performers,

Just curious - I was wondering how you use your inputs/outputs etc.

Post your setup. Words are fine, or use the sketcher if you'd like to illustrate something more elaborate.

Bands are always throwing setups around :-)

Thanks,
MikeZ
 
Posts: 747 | Location: Framingham, Massachusetts | Registered: Thu March 02 2006Reply With QuoteAsk Bose for help
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I have a double bass L1 classic.
When I do solo, it's Senn. 835 into ch. 1 with the 855 preset. My guitar goes into ch. 2 with the appropriate preset. I have several guitars but usually only take one or two to the gig. I plug my ipod into ch. 3 and 4.

I have a T1 on order and I'm really excited to hear it as part of my rig. Also, One of my guitars is a Taylor steel string with the expression system to which I added an LR Baggs imix system. I'm really hoping to get the baggs presets after I get the T1. It should be great.

For the duo I work with, We do mics into ch. 1 and 2 and our guitars flat into 3 and 4. Again I can't wait to get the T1 so we can use some of Cliff's magic on our guitars.

I try to keep it pretty simple, although like my friend focus player,(aka Michael Nunley), I have quite a few toys. My latest is the new vocalist live 2. It's quite cool and really sounds great into the L1.

My best,
Rick

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Posts: 343 | Location: South Georgia | Registered: Sat January 31 2004Reply With QuoteAsk Bose for help
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Mike,

Solo performer, Guitar, sing and play harmonica. I have a Taylor 615CE into Channel 1 with the Taylor tone match for the jumbo strum, I think it is 97. An EV767A into Channel 2 on preset 10 for vocals and harmonica.

I run a Boss TU 2 Tuner on the effects loop for my guitar, and nothing on the vocals. I had been using a Boss Stereo reverb pedal in line for both 1 and 2, but found I didn't need it.

I have a second guitar that I use sometimes, an Alvarez with the 600mk pickup, and the added internal condensor. I run it into input 3 w/o effects, and then run my Ipod into line 4.

I have a snake that I have created to carry everything back to the PS1, and it is pretty clean on the floor.

I too am thinking of getting the T1 so I have some more control of the second guitar, and would like to experiment with some different vocal mic's to see if there is one I like better than the EV.

I also am looking at adding a Voicelive 4 when it comes out.


Gordy ( o)==:::

The Kings Court
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Posts: 778 | Location: Fargo, ND | Registered: Fri October 27 2006Reply With QuoteAsk Bose for help
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I have the Classic. I use a PackLite and 4 B1's.

Most of the time I play a Martin D-18 GE with LR Baggs ibeam active. For quick and easy setups I plug directly in channel 2 with preset 49, for louder rooms I use the LR Baggs para DI. I can get very good sound with or without presets, so sometimes I use channel 3 or 4 when using the DI.

My vocal mic of choice is the EV N/D 767a, channel 1 with preset 10.

Porchboard bass, (the primary reason for 4 B1's) goes into channel 3 or 4.

I am very anxious to get the Model II and the T1. I don't expect it will change my setup too much but with the options the T1 offers one never knows what they might find.

O
 
Posts: 2941 | Location: Kentucky | Registered: Tue May 25 2004Reply With QuoteAsk Bose for help
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Hi:

Solo:
L1 Classic with 1 B1
Guitars (Martin OM28 & Babicz Identity) into Fishman Blender, then to L1, Ch3.
C1000S microphone (for guitars) into L1, Ch2 (08)
Crown Headset Microphone into L1, Ch1 (08)
CD player to L1, Ch4 (CD player is only for playing music while I finish setting up, or playing music between sets, if I take a break, etc).

Duo:
L1 Classic with 2 B1's
Mike's Guitar (Taylor, model ?) into L1, Ch2 (49)
Mike's vocal microphone (Audix OM5) into L1, Ch1 (05).
My guitars into the Fishman Blender, then to L1, Ch3.
I don't use the CS1000 microphone.
Crown Headset microphone into Mackie Onyx 1220, Ch1. Mackie goes to L1, Ch4. CD player, if we need it, plugs into the Mackie.

Trio:
Same as for duo, with Carol's Microphone (AKG model D880?) into Mackie 1220, Ch4. Mackie goes to L1, Ch4.

My guitars go through a Yamaha MagicStomp acoustic guitar processor.
Mike's vocals go through a DigiTech 300 vocal processor.

I'll post pics once I get some decent pics to post, etc.

Of course all of this will change when (if) the T1 gets here, in which case I plan to do the following:
Solo:
Crown Headset Microphone: T1, Ch1
CS1000 Microphone: T1, Ch2
Guitars: T1, Ch3

Duo:
Same as for Solo except the CS1000 goes away and Carol's vocal microphone (Trio) takes its place.
Mike's guitar and vocals same as for Duo, above.

Mike will still use the DigiTech Voice Processor.

Stu

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Posts: 459 | Location: York, PA | Registered: Wed November 23 2005Reply With QuoteAsk Bose for help
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Oh, By the way, I have an L1 Classic with 2 B1's. I originally bought the system with 1 B1, but added the second, and love it.


Gordy ( o)==:::

The Kings Court
www.myspace.com/thekingscourt4u
 
Posts: 778 | Location: Fargo, ND | Registered: Fri October 27 2006Reply With QuoteAsk Bose for help
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I have a double bass L1 Classic. I use an outboard Mackie mixer, CFX 12 which gets fed into Bose channels 1 and 2, presets set at zero. I could get by with no outboard mixer, but occasionally I have a friend or two that I invite to sit in at my steady gig, so extra channels do come in handy. I "roll my own" MIDI sequences note for note and for a tone module I use a Roland JV1010 which occupies one mixer channel. Typically I carry 2 guitars, one electric and one acoustic/electric. The electric is usually either my Strat, or Carvin CT-6, my acoustic, a Carvin CL-450. My mike is an EV; I forget the model number but it is a "flat top" windscreen mike (I think that's an ND/767.) I'm a "less is more" fanatic when it comes to EQ, so normally all my remote control EQ settings are at noon with a slight scoop on the mid. My mixer eq sliders usually resembles the "soft vee". It works for me. Great system and sounds great. What more can I say. Thanks


LG
 
Posts: 41 | Location: Earth | Registered: Mon June 05 2006Reply With QuoteAsk Bose for help
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Hi there,

I am a solo gigger specializing in one-man celtic reggae music although I really do a wide variety of stuff - anything I enjoy I guess.

Main guitar - Godin Solidac,(one output for acoustic sound and one output for electric sounds). I always take my Patrick Eggle New York as a spare guitar but this is really just in case I break a string or I get back ache. (The Eggle is a much lighter guitar than the Godin).

Digitech RP250. This is where I keep my guitar 'sound library' for using with the looper.

Boss RC20 loop Station. I use this for pre-recorded loops and also save some spaces for live looping. Just guitar through here.

Digitech Vocalist 2. This is my latest gadget and I am still amazed by it. I would recommend it to anyone.

I have been running everything in-line in front of the Bose with the vocals via the Vocalist 2 into channel 1.
The electric output from the Godin goes via the Vocalist 2, the Digitech RP250 then the Boss looper into channel 2.
The 'acoustic' output from the Godin goes directly into channel 3.

For the type of stuff I play I find this to be a very versatile set up especialy when mixing the acoustic and electric sounds from the Godin guitar.

The only thing I am thinking of experimenting with is using the insert to run the effects and looper for the electric guitar sounds. I don't know if there would be any big advantage in this cos it sounds pretty good as is, - I guess there's no harm in trying just to see.

By the way, I have an original L1 with two B1s and I very, very pleased with the overall quality and spread of the sound. Thank you.

Gordon.
 
Posts: 165 | Location: Rocky Face, NE Georgia | Registered: Fri October 28 2005Reply With QuoteAsk Bose for help
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I have the L1 model I with 2 B1's - sometimes 1 B1 for smaller venues.

Guitar: Takamine NP-25C into: Boss TU-2 ---> Boss Super Chorus CH-1 ----> Boss RC-2 Loop Station and then out to Channel 2, preset 40

Vocal Mic: Shure Beta 58 (not 58a...not sure what the difference is but it's the first iteration of the beta series) straight into Channel 1 - preset 16

Vocal FX:

Channel 1 Insert into:
Boss DD-3 Digital Delay ---> Boss RV-3 Digital Reverb/Delay

I use the effects sparingly but have recently been enjoying my new RC-2 loop station for about a half dozen songs during the night. I need to somehow consolidate these pedals into an easier setup rig. Currently the guitar effects are all in a Boss BCB-3 Pedal Board and the vocal FX are out loose. My dream is to somehow have one pedal board with the wall warts going to some sturdier AC adapter so that I can go into a gig, setup the L1 and B1's, open up the pedal board, plug my guitar in, run my insert cable and be done with it. Right now it's pretty sloppy.
 
Posts: 91 | Location: Central Maryland | Registered: Wed November 09 2005Reply With QuoteAsk Bose for help
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Hi there Acousticaoc,

I know what you mean by trying to consolidate the number of pedals. In my case, I found that Digitech do a larger pedal which as well as supplying the guitar sounds I use now also has the Jam Man looper built in.

I would then have one big pedal to carry around instead of two smaller ones but it would mean re-programming all the sounds I use into the new pedal. Something to think about anyway.

Gordon.
 
Posts: 165 | Location: Rocky Face, NE Georgia | Registered: Fri October 28 2005Reply With QuoteAsk Bose for help
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Hey Gordon,

I like having the individual Boss pedals primarily because...well, they're TANKS! Indestructible! I've thought about going with an all in one BCB-60 board but 3 of the effects are for guitars (including the tu-2) and 2 are for vocals...and I just wish there was a way to get rid of those damn wall warts with their skinny little fragile cords! Mad
 
Posts: 91 | Location: Central Maryland | Registered: Wed November 09 2005Reply With QuoteAsk Bose for help
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Hey Mike Z. 2 Mics into external FX mixing board panned left and right. Audix OM5 to preset 05 and EV757 into preset 10. Nylon string guitar into mixer panned center - Seagull acoustic guitar into mixer panned center - the only outs are XLR left and right out of mixer into Bose 2 XLR channels with presets. Sounds very nice just that way. FX are sparse - just a very short delay on vox.

Had a recording/sound gig though and things got interesting. This was a Prairie Home Companion sort of thing with a sound FX guy, a narrator, a guitarist, and 7 actors each with a mic. Director wanted 4 isolated recorded tracks - podium mic, guitar, FX guy, and actors. I had one L1, a 12 channel mixer and an Akai 12 channel recorder with 6 inputs and a left and right out. So.....I put the podium mic into the mixer panned hard right - out to Bose - record out of Bose into Akai ch.1.Then I ran the actors mic's into the mixer panned hard left to Bose XlR input, out of Bose into Akai ch 2. Guitar went straight into Akai then I ran the right side only out of Akai into ch 3 Bose so I could record guitar on iso track but still come out of L1. FX guy had Shure condenser straight into Akai and I used the pan on Akai as an aux to get the sound out of the Bose. By turning the pan all the way left you got recorded signal and no Bose- by panning over to the right you had a volume control of sorts for the Bose while not affecting the record level of the Akai. The L1 worked great too because the room was a reverb tank and the Bose tames that better than any other system I could imagine. The recording came out good and will air on three radio stations in the fall. Whew. Got all that?? Take care, Ed.
 
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Wow, thanks for all of the replies, keep em coming!

I am always amazed at the variety (and complexity) of elements solo/duo musicians incorporate into their rigs.

-MikeZ
 
Posts: 747 | Location: Framingham, Massachusetts | Registered: Thu March 02 2006Reply With QuoteAsk Bose for help
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Here's my son and his friend's setup, using my L1/B1 system.

My Stage Layout in The Sketcher

-John
 
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Wow, John...you've got a lot of stuff going through that one system. And here I am worried about adding a bass player in a week.

Andy
 
Posts: 91 | Location: Central Maryland | Registered: Wed November 09 2005Reply With QuoteAsk Bose for help
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Makie 1202 mixer
Roland SC880 Sound Mod.
Digitech Vocalist VR
Boss GX Guitar Effects
Peavey Deltafex .
Fender Guitar ,
HP laptop using Midi files for backup.

Bose L1 with 2B1s , I run everything through the Makie mixer into ch 3 & 4 . I do all the mixing from the makie . It works great for me .

Tom
 
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Here is your sketch John.



-- click image to make changes to the live version --

quote:
Quoting John Nell from the Sketcher
Nell and Read (Duo performance) - Big Muddy Pub - July 6, 2007 Diagram/Checklist

Venue: Bars Capacity: 100 - 150
Nell switches between guitar and drums. Read plays guitar only. Harmonica player sits-in sometimes. 75of music is original material written by Read and Nell. 25are cover songs.

L1 Classic and (2) B1s
Mic 1,2, and 3 - SM58s to PS1/Ch.1 (preset 14) Mixer (Pan Left)
Mic 5 and 6 - SM57s to PS/Ch.2 (preset 13) Mixer (Pan Right)
Mic 4 - SM58 to PS/Ch.3 (Optional - Harmonica player)

1 - Peavey PV-6 Mixer
2 - Fender Acoustic/electric guitars
2 - Fender Acoustasonic Jr. amps
1 - 5 piece Drum kit w/cymbals
Loop and effect pedals



edit - added notes from the Sketcher.

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Posts: 35338 | Location: Canada (Vancouver) | Registered: Sat June 12 2004Reply With QuoteAsk Bose for help
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I have a single bass classic L1.

vocal: SM58 to channel 1 preset 14.

guitar: Brian Moore i2.13 -> Roland VG-88 -> Boss RC-50 -> channel 3.

often a friend will join in with his Takamine acoustic into channel 2 preset 47.
 
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Originally posted by acousticaoc:
Wow, John...you've got a lot of stuff going through that one system. And here I am worried about adding a bass player in a week.

Andy


Please keep in mind it's only two performers and they aren't playing everything all the time. They switch between instruments and mics. (see the Sketcher notes) Not all mics are 'active' all the time. The mics are "off", unless they are using them to sing.

Still, you are right...it's a lot of inputs! I'm sure the addition of another L1/B1 system would be the 'proper' way to do this, but it's not in the cards right now ($$$'s)!
 
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Solo guitar/vocals set up:

L1/B1 Classic (Just added second B1 module)

GTR: Taylor 910/K65/T5 (Depending on song) --> Lexicon MX200 Effects (Touch of reverb, maybe some chorus with the T5) --> L1 Channel 1 (Adjust eq based on guitar)

Vox: Shure SM58 --> TC Helicon VoiceLive --> L1 Channel 2 Preset 14

Looking forward to arrival and integration of T1 into rig. Will eliminate the outboard fx and the hassle of changing presets with every guitar.
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Acoustic Duo/Trio Setup:

Mackie CFX-12 mixer, with all instruments panned hard left and all vox panned hard right. Outputs sent to channels 1 & 2 w/Preset on 00.

Reading on how to attach the T1 to a classic, I like the idea of using channels 3&4 and may try that in the future when we are all playing together...
 
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