I have a L-1,Model-1 unit with (2) if needed) B1 base + T-1 mixer. My partner and I share Leads using backing tracks/CD-G tracks/Midi tracks.He has extreme "on key" sense. Has anyone the experience using a harmonizer with T-1 mixer can anyone reccommend one without dealing with input of key. whereby when first note is sung by either myself or my partner, you can have a 2 or /3or /4 part harmony..... Please advise

Hi Wynn,
I recommend the Digitech Vocalist VR or newer model. You can use it without an instrument.. but to have better and correct harmony I advise you to use a (midi) guitar or keyboard through it for the machine to send out the correct harmony notes.

Hi Zepp: Inasmuch as I am not using a guitar for my act. However, I spoke to my friend at Sam Ash. He reccommended a DigiTech vocalist Live3. with effects pedal. I also spoke to Bose technical for L-1- Model and he explained set up. My only _non-secure_ area is how it will sound with T-1 effects etc... Well , I will be probably ordering tommorrow.

Hi Wynn
I use a TC.Helicon VoiceWorks which is rack mounted. I use one channel on my midi tracks to send the key and program change to it via midi.It works very well for me.I run my mike directly to the in of the TC Helicone and take the output into channel 1 of my T1.It has great effects in the unit that I use and at the end of each song you can program it to turn the effects off while your speaking.I dont know if this helps you.But its what I use.

Hope this helps Todd

The only one I know of that works well off of the MP3 tracks from a T1 and not using a guitar or setting the "Key" is the TC Helicon Vocal Live Touch.
It is a bit expensive, but it will track the harmonies off of the MP3 Tracks.

I use USB inputs from my laptop/tablet to the T1 inputs 4&5, then route the signal to the "Aux" port, into the VLT MP3 input. It works very well.

Wynn,
I second Joel on his setup. I do it the same way. LOVE the TC Helicon Voice Live Touch. I'm still playing around with the 200 plus presets tweeking things to my liking.
Joel,
Do you use any backing tracks with background vocals? I do & I'm not sure if it affects anything but on some songs I just punch off the harmony button. Also have you considered running a usb cable to the VLT at the same time as the T1? I was wondering if the signal would be treated the same as going into the VLT MP3 from the aux port on the T1.

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Also have you considered running a usb cable to the VLT at the same time as the T1?

I have run a USB to the VLT by itself, when I used the "Stereo" out from it and no T1 to 2 L1 Compacts. The sound was OK to the 2 L1 Compacts, but a bit tricky to adjust. I also get a better range on my EV HM-7 condenser mike, with the T1 or my A&H Zed10 FX mixer.
I am thinking that with 2 USB cables, the MP3 player application would have to choose one or the other as the sound card, not both.

I have not heard any issues on some tracks with background vocals. I usually step in the "Harmony footswitch" for specific parts of a song. I do use certain presets through a whole song, like "Old Time Rock & Roll or Another Brick in the Wall.

I'll admit the VLT has quite a learning curve, but once you tweak a few presets and add them to your favorites, they work very well.

Hi JoelH & John. Wow!! This sounds interesting. My set up is as follows: Channel (1). My wireless mic. Channel (2) my partners wireless mic.

Channel (3) open. Channel (4/5) - VIA usb TO MY LAP TOP. cdg backing tracks.
Now I do sing a lot of 50/60's oldies. How would you recc. TC Helicon Vocal Live Touch... be used whoever is singing lead will not have need for harmonizer. Whoever sings backgroud harmonies, will use channel (2) with TC Helicon toit. Please advise. Thanks(PS... digital delay currently on (1) ,rever on channel (2) for effects for singing.

Hi Joel. I am becoming more interested in the Tc Helicon VLT. However, are u saying the harmonies are derived from the music.? How would you exactly run wires from TCHelicon to T-1 mix . Now secondly, does the TC Helicon take harmonies from music being generated from channel 4/5 Laptop ... If this gives a sound like alvin and the chipmunks, this is not for me... Please advise.... Thank you

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If this gives a sound like alvin and the chipmunks, this is not for me... Please advise....

If it did sound that way, why would you think I would find that acceptable? Of course it doesn't. Especially at $500.

It does track the harmonies from the MP3 and quite well. The actual effects, are set by the various parameters of the Touch Controls and 1 of the 300 presets. I set my favorites into the "Favorites Banks" with their PC screen editor. It has a fairly steep learning curve, but worth it in the long run.

I still have my Digitech VL-4 which needs a guitar to track the harmonies and sounded pretty good, but you needed the guitar for it to work right. I purchased the TC VLT, when I had both "Hands" operated on for "Carpel Tunel".
Now I am used to the TC Helicon VLT and like it very much.

I send the USB audio from the T1 4&5 to the "Aux" port for the VLT MP3 input. I run my Mic into the VLT first and then set to "Mono out" to the T1 channel 1 for most of my gigs with my L1 MII or when using 1 L1 Compact. I use a different mixer A&B ZED10FX with 2 L1 Compacts as that rig is "Stereo".

Hi Joelheck. thank you vrery much. That is the exact answer I was hoping for. I am going to Sam
Ash this week with my laptop and run thru a pa system.. and we will see if it sounds what I am hoping it sound like!!! Thank you for your answer and assistance.

Hello Joelheck again: One question. In trying to understand your hook up info, are u saying I should connect the USB line that I normally run from my laptop USB to T-1 USB... instead run from my laptop directly to TC-VLT "aux" port for mp3 input?and then set what" to mono out on T-1( harmony mic is channel 2)This is part I don't understand.. I do know I would, according to your spec, put channel 2 wireless in channel (2) .... Its the " mono out" I do not comprehend... Thanks...

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I send the USB audio from the T1 4&5 to the "Aux" port for the VLT MP3 input. I run my Mic into the VLT first and then set to "Mono out" to the T1 channel 1 for most of my gigs with my L1 MII or when using 1 L1 Compact.

The PC USB, still goes to the T1, ports 4&5. You also route the T1 4&5 signal, (which is now summed by the T1) to the T1 "Aux" port to feed your Tracks (MP3) signal over to the VLT MP3/Aux input (page 6, item 6). Looking through the VLT Quick Start, on page 6, item 4. It states, the TRS outputs (which feeds the wet vocal signal to your channel 2 of the T1) can be set to Mono, Dual Mono, or Stereo. You would want to use the VLT Left TRS in Dual Mono mode and not the Right TRS output.
You would plug your wireless Mic into item 1 the Mic input of the VLT.

Thanks Joel. I know I sound really "thick" , but when it comes to hook up for first time..... Here goes... My mic,lead, goes into T-1 channel 1 as always. Harmonizer mic, on channel two, first goes into XLR in on VLT. XLR out to channel(2) on T-1. Now.... My music ... laptop to USB on T-1 as usual. From Aux port on T-1 1/4" to> 1/8" aux in on VLT... Where do I route from VLT Left TRS out to???? Thanks for your help...

Hello Joel: I hope I'm sounding cunfused(about 25% worth!)... As it stands now, my mic, the lead mic, goes into channel(1) of T-1... no harmony will be used on that input, just lead vocals.... Channel (2) is what I refer to as "harmony Mic".. If you would be so kind to just step by step, tell me how to hook up Vocal Live Touch, keeping in mind channel 4/5 is backing tracks with USB from laptop to USB on T-1... and go from there, I would really appreciate it ...Thank you....

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tell me how to hook up Vocal Live Touch, keeping in mind channel 4/5 is backing tracks with USB from laptop to USB on T-1.

Here is a Wiki Link for routing chan 3 to another system. Just substitute 4&5 for chan 3. I seem to recall using a level of 25% and the "Tap" setting was "Dry". Stop at step 5 of the wiki note. I then ran a Mono 1/4 to stereo 1/8 from the T1 Aux port to the VLT Aux input. I also turned down the volume of the MP3 on the VLT, since I did not want it mixing with the vocal output. It still controls the harmony.

When I first tried the VLT XLR output, I think it was either too strong of a signal or had music or guitar in the signal, so I went with a TRS cable from the "Left TRS" output in "Dual Mono Mode" into my T1 mike channel (chan 2 in your case). I haven't bothered trying the XLR again, since I learned how to adjust other VLT parameters,I may play with that again. The initial learning of the VLT took several sessions and a number of hours. In the long haul it was worth it.
Now that my hands are better, I'll be playing with the looper and some guitar riffs (sorry to deviate here).
I hope that clears a few things up.

I cannot thank you enough. I will be trying out next two days.

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I cannot thank you enough. I will be trying out next two days.

Glad to help. Good luck and let me know if you have any more issues.
I wish I was a bit more comfortable like "ST" in putting a diagram/picture together.

Hello Joelheck... Well, I have made a decision. Inasmuch as I have a solo act and a duo act..I do a lot of entertaining and walking around qand I feel it would be just another gadget to fool around with up on stage that perhaps would deter me from "performing".UI called TC Hel. and gave them my situation. They said it sounds like I have a lot going on with music etc. They suggested TC Helicon H-1, harmony pedal. We are experimenting with it now... It is awsome...No interference with anyone on stage.etc.... I will report back by Saturday 8/20...

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They suggested TC Helicon H-1, harmony pedal. We are experimenting with it now... It is awsome...

There is a lot to be said for simplicity. If your getting a good harmony by setting the key, that would be great. The technology has come a long way over the last few years.
There are times I feel that the VLT is an overkill, but I originally purchased it to use the looper and many of the other features. The fact that it tracks the MP3 was a good bonus for me, especially when I had my operation and had limited use of my hands.

Good luck, looking forward to your feedback on the H1.