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I recently rec'd my L-1,Model-1 with one B-1. Last Thurs and Friday was first time used. I am amazed at the crispness and clarity of sound with this system. I had been using two SaX100 powered speakers. However, Iprimarily sing with CD-g or backing tracks. I use a Re-2 wireless mic. As well as Vocopro- prer/amp mixer with digital effects(37 of them).. The combo is unreal..My remote to the L-1 is set on master, being I am plugged into channel 3, at 2:00.
My mixer mic individual is set at 2:00 and Master microphone setting is set at 9:00.. Would I be better off increasing mast mic setting and decreasing individual mic setting?,, I guess I would have to play around with settings..... Thanks
 
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Hi, Wynn: Congrat's on the L1 purchase!

What you may want to look into is separating the mic channels' output from the CD/backing track channels, so that you can send the CD/backing tracks into the Bose PS/1 channel 3 (or 4), and then connect the isolated mic sub-group output into the Bose Channel 1 or 2. That way you can select a Bose Preset to best match your mics; I think you'll be pleased with how much better the mics can sound.

For a first round of testing, try plugging one of the mics directly into the Bose Channel 1, not using your existing mixer at all. Adjust the Trim knob so you get a 'green' LED (flickers of red when singing at your loudest are o.k., but it shouldn't be solid red during the loud section).

Once you hear how that sounds, then you can know what to listen for when you put the mics through the mixer and connect the "mic subgroup" to that Channel 1 -- noting that you will then have to turn the Trim on the PS/1 way down, probably, to keep the LED just green, not red.

If you run into some difficulties figuring out how to separate the backing tracks from the mics, please come back here and post a bit more detail about the make and model of your mixer and what you are connecting to it (and any links you might have to online info about that equipment), and someone (or several!) on this forum will surely be able to help you sort things out.
 
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Thanks for reply Dan corbett. If I understand you correctly, I will remove my wireless electrovoice RE-2 cable from receiver of RE-2 normally placed at input #1 on my Vocopro Dx5800 pre amp mixer andf plus it into Channel #1 on PS-1..My only concern is.. I like to have Echo Delay with slight reverb on my voice. I do not know if the PS-1 has that ability....Please advise.
 
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Hello Wynn,

To reply to a post, please use the grey button marked "Reply" instead of the button marked "New".

Thank you.
 
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I am sorry. I do not understand your reply Dan... I just referred to my original posting... I do not get it....

Thanks
 
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Can you tell us specifically what model of mixer you have? That may help us be more specific with suggestions for improving your sound.
 
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Hi dan: Yes, The mixer is a VocoPro Model DX5800. It has separate settings for 3 mic inputs,and settings for music and mic. As well as 37 settings for Mic settings etc... Along with a Vocopro 8800 dual tray digital control player...As I stated in my last message, my concern with using Channel 1 or 2 on B/1 stand is being able to have bass,treble,as well as Echo /delay OR reverb for my wireless microphone...Please advise
 
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Hi Wynn,

The recommendation for connecting the RE-2 directly into channel 1 or two is for testing purposes and to try the different presets to get the best vocal sound without there being anything else in the chain to add any unknowns. Once you have found a preset that works well for you vocal mic you can reintroduce your mixer for effects.

I also agree with Dan's suggestion on connecting the backing tracks to a different input of your L1. This will allow more control over the different aspects of your sound.


Mark
 
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Originally posted by Wynn:
...The mixer is a VocoPro Model DX5800...
Hi, Wynn:
I could not find any info on a DX5800; is your unit one of these?

... which is the DA-5800RX.

If not, do you have a link to some on-line info about the mixer?
 
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Yes, this is the mixer I use. Now, If I remove plugging my RE-2 Mic into let's say ,into mic one input and put it into L-1 power stand channel (1) and select let's say #10( which is same ratio's as EV mic 767... will I then be able to have an echo effect from power stand?... I would think having music and mic plugged into mixer, would give me more flexibility for sound than splitting up vocal and backing tracks...!!!
Thanks for you replies!!!!
Wynn
 
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Hi: How do I introduce mixer into mix by plugging RE-2 mic into channel 1 or 2.. I am not sure how to do this. As well, presently I plug xlr from back of mixer to channel 3 (1/4" JACK) IS MY ONLY CONTACT BETWEEN MIXER AND POWER BASE.... THANKS
 
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Originally posted by Wynn:
Ok here it is. I purchased, rec'd and am playing solo gig 2 times a week for the past 3 weeks since receiving my L-1/Model 1 with (1) B-1 base. The sound is incredible... I had been using (2) SxA100 powered speakers from EV along with a EV , RE-2 wireless mic with fantastic sound.What I use is either sound tracks or CD-G for background music/harmony vocals( I sing 50's-60's-standards etc some 70's rock) I use a DA-5800RX from voco pro as my pre amp mixer. with two CD trays... The only wire from my mixer is going from (right side) on mixer to channel (3) on power base. That is it!!! Is there another method to use that would even provide greater sound enhancement with Echo/reverb for which I have 37 different setting for both vocals and music ...Is there a way to use channel (1) for my Mic input on power base and somehow add effects to it?>?or, a split wire going into right and left on mixer with one going into channel 3 on base... I dont need a tone match unit...Thanks
 
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Just pulling together reference information.

DA5800 RX manual

EV RE 2 UHF System

is available with three different microphone elements.
Which one have you got?

• N/DYM 267a Dynamic element
• RE 410 Condenser
• NDYM® 767a Dynamic premium vocal microphone
with VOB™ (Vocal-Optimized-Bass)


still pulling together reference info - more coming
 
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THANKS VERY MUCH FOR YOU HELP... I AM REALLY TRYING TO GET THE MAX EFFICIENCY OF SOUND FROM THIS...)
 
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THE SYSTEM I HAVE ON THE RE-2 MIC...IS HANDHELD VERSION ONLY... NO HEADSET ...I ADD 9 VOLT BATTER TO HANDHELD MIC. SET RECEIVER TO AUTO SELECT CORRECT CHANNEL ETC... AND THEN SET MIC TO SAME...
 
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I use a DA-5800RX from voco pro as my pre amp mixer. with two CD trays...



Hello Wynn,

What are the CD trays you mentioned above?
 
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Hello Wynn,

It looks to me as though the way you are doing things now is fine.

Having looked at the DA5800 RX manual I do not see a way to route the microphone output separate from the music. You would need to be able to separate the signal path of the microphone from the music in order to run the microphone through the L1® and use the Presets to their best advantage.

If you were to run to Channel 1 and use a Preset for your microphone capsule, by the time you run the signal through your DA5800 RX, back through the L1®, you would be affecting the music with the Preset as well as the vocal. This is probably not going to be an improvement.

If you really want to try it, just run the output of the DA5800 RX to the L1® Power Stand Channel 1 and try Preset #10 (EV N/D767).

If you do give this a shot, please let us know what you hear.

What expect that you may like the sound of the microphone better, but the backing tracks will also be affected and not necessarily in a good way.

If you really like the difference in the sound of the microphone, then consider getting another mixer for the "CD trays" and running the output of that mixer to Channel 3.
 
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