[Editor's note: this is a somewhat long review, but worth the read.]

I just posted a sketch called 6 piece Variety band.I couldn't add an e-mail after it was submitted. Anyway I have tried the PAS with 1 Bass Module for about a year or so and I am ready to throw in the towell. I really like the sound, and I have seen in more quiet settings the PAS would work great, I have posted a note with the Sketcher and hope to hear from someone that might have suggestions on how I can salvage the Bose before I take a loss and sell it.

- Bob Hunt, July 6, 2005 -


Hi Bob,

OK, so you're not at 115 db. I’ve had people complain about the Bose systems “not cutting it” only to find the band is a sonic assault unit.

I've been using my systems for over a year and a half and I'm happier than ever. Let me ask a couple of other questions.

·Are you always in the same position on the stage?
·Where is your B1 located in relationship to the drum monitor?
·Where is your B1 located in relationship to the bass amp?
·When you are loud enough to hear yourself on stage, are you always not loud enough out front?
·When you are loud enough to hear yourself, are others on stage louder than you?
·Are you using traditional monitors for yourself in addition to your system?
·Are you using traditional monitors for yourself to hear other band members?
·Does the band utilize a sound person?

I'm having a hard time believing your KC300 makes a better vocal or instrument monitor than your Bose system. I think we can get to the bottom of this.

- DanS, July 6 -


Hi Dan,

Thanks for the reply and the concern.
I am either on one end or the other.
The Drum monitor usually is placed on the left side of the drummer angled back slightly to him. The Guitar is on the opposite end with the Keyboard slightly behind and to the far left. The bass is next to the Guitar in front and to the left of the drums.

In more quite venues I can hear and the sound is good out front.

When it is loud on stage I can't set the level high enough to avoid complaints about hearing out front. I have a wireless midi so I go out when I can to listen. It sounds ok on my end but the opposite side is weak compared to the overall level.

When I used the PAS There were no other monitors that I used.

We don't have a sound guy. The Bass player is the designated sound guy and I think he is a much better Bass player than a sound guy.

- Bob Hunt, July 6 -


I just thought I would let you see the reply I got back from or Bass player that runs the sound. The reason he only played 2 jobs this year was a wrist injury from a Motorcycle accident.
"Here are my thoughts:

I've only played 2 gigs this year and only one with the Bose. On that gig I didn't play Bass but rather rhythm guitar thru a 15 watt amp that was not going thru the mains or monitors. I could hear myself fine as well as the other instruments on that gig. On the other gig, You used the Roland and it was in my opinion, more then enough monitor and I'm sure everyone would say you were plenty loud enough.

If I were you, I would either work with what works best and YOU enjoy the most or I would say "see ya" and work with a group that more meets your desires. I'm saying this as a friend who has watched you fight this noise thing from day one and invest thousands in trying to make it work. And admit-tingly this is coming from a person who is part of the problem! Some times it's better to just say I can't deal with this and move on. For instance, my bass head blew at the lawyer's gig. Rather then spend hundred's or thousands to fix it, I'm going to just make do with an old head and enjoy what little playing opportunities I have left. If that was not acceptable, I would say thanks for the memories and a very cool ride! I would recommend the same for any of us.

I think Bose is right. Your system works fine if you think it does and not if you don't. So I say enjoy it and find a way that it feels good for you even if that means playing with different folks. The rest of the band isn't going to change, that is a given. So it's your call. I've said this to you before, this is suppose to be fun. When it ceases to be, you should cease to be!

I report, YOU decide! Now go take on the day."

- Bob Hunt, July 7 -


This is so wierd I feel like I just walked out of the "Twilight Zone".

I was so ticked off about the reply I got from our Bass player that I followed through with a whim to play a Jam session. I went early to aquaint myself and figure out a setup. I went light with the equipment in an attempt to not impose or seem to aggressive. Anyway I couldn't believe my eyes, there were 2 PAS systems in the setup without the big amps and frontals. When they asked me to play it worked out great despite the KC300 that I had trouble hearing. I was offered a job after the first set, and when I told them I had a Bose PAS they were even more impressed. This is the first time I had the opportunity to hear a band playing through these. My only experience was what I heard through my own system.I won't say it wasn't loud, but it was clear and I sat directly in front of the band (less than 15 feet away) and I didn't feel like they were killing me.
So Dan I didn't expect things to work out this way so soon, but it looks like there are more opportunities out there than my little shell exposed, but somtimes things have a way of working out.Seeing other locals using the Bose PAS is more than encouraging.

Maybe spouting off and venting was what the Doctor ordered.

Thanks for all of the Bose team efforts to help out.

Best regards,

- Bob Hunt, July 8 -

full thread here