Hi all -- I'm a new L1 owner, just trying the equipment. I like the concept of the kickgate feature, but I'm having trouble with the gate being closed on a second, rapid stroke. In other words, with a rapid double stroke, the second stroke isn't getting amplified.

It seems to be an issue with the gate closing after a stroke, but not reopening fast enough. If I slowly increase the speed of a series of double strokes, eventually I get to a speed at which the second isn't amplified.

I'm puzzled, because the speed at which that happens is fast, but not incredibly fast.

I tried the "Faster" kick gate setting for "double bass pedals" assuming this would fix it, but no luck.

In fact, I as best as I can tell, the "Faster" setting won't let me go any faster than the regular setting -- and certainly not fast enough for reasonable bass pedal work.

Has anyone else had this problem? Is there a documented glitch where "Faster" isn't actually any different than "Regular"?

Thanks in advance!

Not sure how much, what, or if any difference it might make but try it with the effects bypassed or muted for the channel you have the kick in.

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Hi SambaSauce, and Welcome to the Forums.

I am a single pedal drummer, no speed pedaling.
Yet I have a little bit of trouble with the gate misfiring even with slow tempos.
Typically, 4-5 times a night during 4 hour gigs.

At times, I have had loud bass guitar notes close the gate just before my kick.
But this usually happens when snare and kick are hit simultaneously (think Pretty Woman).
This leads me to believe that my snare hit is slightly ahead of the kick,
setting the gate off just before the kick strike.

When you have your problem, are you hitting only the kicks, or is the snare beat in there too?

At last Saturday's gig, my kick was missing lots of beats, on account of the kick gate, really annoying!
I use a Kelly Shu mount, that keeps the mic in the same place all the time.
The mic capsule is about 8-12" inside aimed at the beater.

I pulled it back, so the XLR connector was "just" inside the drumhead hole,
and aimed the mic straight in, not at the beater.
A change in position of about 4".
The misfiring stopped totally.

Yaa!

Tested this again at a gig last night, not a single misfire.
Surmising that position is very important.
Not that this cures a *speed* problem, but I have heard from another drummer who experiences misfires.

quote:

I have heard from another drummer who experiences misfires

I think Pete is referring to me here.

Hi SambaSauce

I don't use the Kick gate for the light jazz stuff but when I'm playing in louder bands I do.

I have been having the same problem you described and thought it was being triggered by the bass guitar. After ruling that out I figured the snare might be the culprit but it wasn't that either. The kick was misfiring all by itself.

I think Pete is on to something with mic placement. I use a beta 91 so I don't have as much flexibility in that area. I tried bringing the 91 out from the center of the kick to as close to the reso head as possible.I aimed it away from the beater and now I can't seem to make it misfire. I've only tried this in my practice room but at this point it's working.

Thanks Pete.