After having to defend a certain aspect of my set-up from a recent post i realized something. At times it seems that different DJ's on here act as though they are in competition with each other. I'm not saying that I'M excluded in this.
The fact of the matter is that we aren't in competition with each other, heck some of us aren't even on the same continent. What I love about this forum is how we can share our stories of L1 conquests & ask questions & learn. Passing judgment should be left out! As DJ's & business owners we are naturally competitive but that has it's place out side this forum but not in it.

Just a few thoughts.

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At times it seems that different DJ's on here act as though they are in competition with each other.

I could be wrong as just a casual observer on the DJ issue (more of a solo player myself), but I did not get the impression of the other DJ looking to criticize or requiring a defense on that issue.

He did add a disclaimer sort of apology in asking the questions. My take was one of curiosity and possible 3rd party comment to lend an opinion. However one takes that is naturally up to them, but I did not read it as being unkind or passing judgment.

I on the other hand have my wife to tell me when I am doing something less than perfect or when my shirt, pants or whatever is the wrong color or in fact tacky.

When I had a female singing partner, she could not take any criticism, no matter how constructive. That is a shame, for quite often other people see things we just did not consider. Quite frankly they most often are right.

Thank you Joel. I made it very clear that I wasn't attacking, belittling or disrespecting JDBass in my comments, but rather that I was trying to understand the concept. Sadly, it appears that even though I tried extremely hard to word it carefully, that the exact thing I was trying to avoid being perceived, was perceived.

Oh well, c'est la vie.

As I had posted earlier let's just let people run their business the way they want to run their business and stick to the issues of Bose Sound only. I own two Bose Systems and could care less who fly's a banner, who uses lights. who dresses the way they dress on stage etc. They are all working and using Bose Products. There are two ways to run your business. Your way and their way. If this type of critique keeps up I for one will cease being a part of this forum.

AJ
Music is neither young or old .....it just "is"

I respectfully disagree.
I am very interested in the styles and preferences of other Bose users. I believe DJ's who are drawn to the L1 concept bring with them a perspective that is more unique and open than the norm. How they present themselves, do their performance, set up their lights, rig and create their personal image and integrate the L1 into all of that is just as interesting to me as the techo information shared here.

I would hate to have Bose limit this forum just because of a dust up between a few of our forum members.

With the egos of a group of performing DJ’s, a public apology is not a realistic expectation. I found myself in a situation where I ruffled some feathers with a something I said in a post. I handled it off the public forum by going directly to the person I inadvertently offended. Even though I did not intend to offend, I said in that personal message, I was sorry.

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Originally posted by DJ Richard, Award Entertainment:
Thank you Joel. I made it very clear that I wasn't attacking, belittling or disrespecting JDBass in my comments, but rather that I was trying to understand the concept. Sadly, it appears that even though I tried extremely hard to word it carefully, that the exact thing I was trying to avoid being perceived, was perceived.

Oh well, c'est la vie.

Richard,

As one of your greatest admirers, I must say, while you intentions may have been benign, your use of words were (for this side of the pond) a button pusher, to be sure.

I got myself into something like this while working for the UN Police Mission in Bosnia. I was hanging out (drinking)with some UK cops and one of them pulled out a guitar. I used a term, my hometown guitar playing cop buddies called themselves.

“So you’re a wanker ea?”

Imagine my surprise when my British colleague made a move to knock my block off. Fortunately, before it blew up into an international incident, I was able to convince him that, back in the states, “wanker” was an affectionate term and no harm was intended.

"Can't we just all get along?"

Hi Guys,

I can feel the temperature rising a little bit here and I'd like to ask that we all try to stick to the main purpose and value of this forum: to discuss the use of the L1 systems in our work as DJs and musicians.

The easiest rule of thumb I can think of when I disagree with something that's been said here, and may even feel the heat rising under my collar, is to stick to the "I" voice when I speak.

Many of you have heard me talk about this before. It's a simple rule: stick to what I am feeling and what I think. Start my sentences with I rather than you.

So it's "I felt attacked when you said..." not "You attacked me." In first case, I am stating my opinion. In the second, I'm accusing you of attacking me which assumes a motivation on your part.

So many times I've seen someone get angry because another assumed something about their motivations. And then that anger at being what they think is wrongly accused come back the other direction, and so on. Things might escalate into a shouting match, or things might simmer down but leave lingering resentments.

So I guess what I'm saying is that our own feelings are unassailable but we are often wrong when we assume what others are thinking and feeling. If we stick to stating our own feelings and thoughts it seems to me we have a way to disagree without assailing or judging or assuming the motivations of others.

One of the things I'm most proud of in the whole wide world is that this community practices respect for other -- even if they disagree -- better than most or even all others I've experienced. I think we all deserve "A's" for respectful behavior. I think that's where so much of the value of the interactions that take place here comes from.

Does this make sense?

Ken

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It's a simple rule: stick to what I am feeling and what I think

Make a lot of sense here. I used to teach my employees to try and speak in the 3rd person, especially regarding Company or Service related policies.

"We" do the following, or it is "Our or Company" policy to do the following.

About 2 hours later a service tech came up front and stated, "We", plugged in a disk drive with the cable upside down and it smoked.

Oh, well

I think Richards comment about my banner being an eyesore was rude.

Luck I'm easy going, because if he would have said that to another DJ they could have been potentially been very angry. We don't want to turn someone valuable away from the forum just to give an opinion.

I think if there is something we like about someones set-up we should complement them. On the flip side if there is something we don't like we should just keep it to our selves. This type of behavior will keep everyone happy with no hurt feelings.

Does that make sense? Happy = Good & Angry = Bad

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On the flip side if there is something we don't like we should just keep it to our selves. This type of behavior will keep everyone happy with no hurt feelings.

Using the "I" word here. I quit hosting Karaoke long ago, because when singers would ask "How did it sound" I might respond "Do you want to know the truth or should I lie and blow smoke like the rest".

I also had a few people that would ask me because they knew I wouldn't lie and appreciated the tips I would give them for improvement. Trust me my "Vocal instructor", never minced words, that's what I paid and respected her for.

I look at the forum here as a great place to hear opinions, tips and advice from musical peers. We ask questions to get an idea of how others do things and to trade perspectives. It would be sad to see this type of open communication get stifled because of the need to "Sugar coat everything".

That is why Karaoke never gets any better and why I don't host it. Keep everyone happy and they will never learn any better. Just have a good time. Sometimes that works and sometimes it can clear a room pretty quick.

It is very hard to give "Constructive opinions". Most of the time "People will take offense" and the whole constructive or just inquisitive meaning is lost in hurt feelings and damaged relationships. But then that is Karaoke, amateurs and life in general.

I would like to think we can be a bit more professional, mature and open to ideas and opinions here.

That being said. "The opinions just expressed are my own and not directed to anyone else".

I think Richards comment about my banner being an eyesore was rude.

I agree and "tacky" was not so nice either.

Luck I'm easy going, because if he would have said that to another DJ they could have been potentially been very angry. We don't want to turn someone valuable away from the forum just to give an opinion.

Or if they ran off after being offended by someone’s criticism.

I think if there is something we like about someones set-up we should complement them. On the flip side if there is something we don't like we should just keep it to our selves. This type of behavior will keep everyone happy with no hurt feelings.

I disagree, criticism is good and necessary for individual growth and improvement. You have made many comments about laptop DJing and other stuff that would pretain to me. I’m not offended and I appreciate your inpuit.

Could someone else have commented on your banner (in a more tactfull manner) without offending you?

I also agree we are here to learn and give advice, tips and our experiences with the Bose Speaker system as now get this,,, ,,,,,,

ONE BIG HAPPY BOSE DJ FAMILY

Russell

Oh for the love of ice cream! I withdraw my comments and apologise profusely for any upset caused by me expressing my opinion. Let's please forget I ever asked the question and move on with our busy lives.

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Originally posted by jdbassentertainment.com:
I think Richards comment about my banner being an eyesore was rude.

Yeah, but what if he's right? What if that's how your guests feel? Not the one's who say you're the best DJ in the world... I mean the guests you never hear from - ever.

I know how easy it is to take someone's passing observation and turn it into a jab. The written word leaves big gaps in communication.

You go ahead - take offence. Perhaps your competitors are happy about that.

Love your Bose, most importantly.

I wasn't very offended by it, like you said "the written word leaves big gaps in communication". I just saw the potential in this really upsetting someone & by bring up this point I made it into a bigger deal than it was.

I think you all have valid points & I would like to end this thread by saying by saying what Richard said let's move on.

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Originally posted by Nick from New Zealand:
Yeah, but what if he's right? What if that's how your guests feel? Not the one's who say you're the best DJ in the world... I mean the guests you never hear from - ever.

I know how easy it is to take someone's passing observation and turn it into a jab. The written word leaves big gaps in communication.

You go ahead - take offence. Perhaps your competitors are happy about that.

You Kiwis sure have a way with words.

A couple of weeks back, Joel Heck made a brief comment about the appearance of my lights. My initial response was negative.

Joel took exception to a comment I made here about a year ago so I conveniently wrote his comment off to getting even. Then I realized, I too have been concerned about the look of my lights but put that issue on the back burner and in the back of my mind. Joel’s comment made me think about it again and work on a fix. While not a particularly comfortable experience, it was a useful and productive one.
Thanks Joel!

Thank you guys for letting things ease on this one.

I told my son it is the strong that can back down.

I'm going to have him read this thread as an example of how that's done.

Ken

Gez, I'm completely different then. I'm totally open to all compliments and critisisms. Even though I'm right all the time, someone may be righter (LOL)

Listen guys. Party in Jersey! I'll rent out a Veterans Hall and we can all party it up with our bose systems. Who cares about a few words said. Like some of you said it's just criticism.

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Originally posted by Lou D: You Kiwis sure have a way with words.

It's an accent thing. Besides - you're all completely wrong, and I'm at least 100% correct, if not more.

Thank you to the Bose team for letting this thread do it's thing. It's helped me immensely, and in fact I may go and buy a Compact before Christmas thanks to the comments and education in this very thread.