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Part of the beauty of the T1 is it's size and built in features. So for DJ application, I can't imagine they would need to make it more than 2 spaces. One of the best mixers ever was the Urei 1620 and the Bosark before that. They had the best pots and hence the best sound quality. The only thing that needs to be a slider would be the cross fader. I can't understand all the concers about price. Quality always comes at a price. The L1 is not cheap, so why would you want a cheap mixer to go with it? Quality, features and ease of use should be the first requirements. | ||||
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...and for those of use that already have a T1, make it so the T1 mixer can be usb'd into the new Bose mixer w/o having to use a channel on the new Bose mixer. | ||||
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Rack mount or nothing! No matter how great this "new Bose mixer" is if you don't make it rack mountable (2-4 spaces) count me out! A rack = safety & simplicity. We've Got The Tools, We've Got The Talent! Ghostbusters | ||||
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I vote for rack mountable as well, definitely. I need a rack anyway, for synth module, efx, wireless receivers, etc., and adding a mixer that must be carried and hooked up separately every gig, is just more added hassle. What I have seen as an ongoing push/pull, is that from jump, Bose conceived an ideal world, where each musician, in every group, would have their own personal sound system. With that in mind, it's obvious most designs are geared toward one person's use, maybe a duo. However, that's not what I see happening in the real world, as much as some of my players love it, none have gone out and bought a system, even used, so I'm left having to use it for combos down to myself as a solo act, with tracks. However, even when I work solo, a T1 would just barely cover my needs, as I run two mics (wired or wireless), a mini-disc player, wind synth, & sometimes, even another mic. Siince I play various saxes, & flute, if I'm using a wired mic for vocals, I may use two wireless mics, one for the saxes, & one for flute. And I often work as a duo or trio, which would immediiately "space" me out of using a T1, unless used with yet another mixer.... It's a gnawing issue with me, over the years, as there are some products, mixers & pa systems, with beaucoup bells & whistles & lots of channels for all kinds of things, & then there's the Bose products, with that sound quality, and dispersion we've grown so fond of, but in a no frills ensemble, and expensive... I love the idea of consolidating various functions in one unit, mixer channels, efx, extra outputs, EQ, etc., one small Alesis mixer I have, besides a lot of channels, digital efx, outputs & inputs, multi-mixes, & USB, even has an iPod docking station, where I can either play mp3s from, or digitally record any & all my gigs, from the same mixer I'm using to perform.... And it's priced well below one T1... It's difficult facing these kinds of choices, & especially now, with the pretty major drop I & many others are experiencing in work... "When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace." - Jimi Hendrix | ||||
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The rackmount idea for a new T1 is probably going to be one of the toughest issues out there. Back when I DJ/KJ'ed, I loved having a rack unit with everything already hooked up and ready to go, slider pots and all. It not only looked good, but it felt good and fun to use. Now as a performer, the less in front of me, between the audience, the better. The present T1 is quite ideal in that case, albeit a bit shy on ports at times. Some items are rack friendly, like wireless mikes and mini/nano verb type units in that they can be mounted to a rack mount bracket. This usually works, only if the knobs and setting are accessible from the front. Given the need for a number of setting, sliders, options and such that folks are asking for, this should be an interesting challenge to see what Bose comes up with on the next version of a T1 type mixer. | ||||
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...2 years from now! Well I think they should at least offer a version that can be rack mounted or offer a kit to do so. If not to most of us out there it still won't be a "real DJ" mixer. We've Got The Tools, We've Got The Talent! Ghostbusters | ||||
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And it isn't,it's a musician's mixer. | ||||
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I'm saying if the do come out with a stereo T1 for DJ's it should be able to be rack mounted, or they shouldn't even bother. We've Got The Tools, We've Got The Talent! Ghostbusters | ||||
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More power on the low end like 200 watts at 8 ohms per B1 KUKU-GUNN | ||||
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This thread is about the T1 DJ Mixer only. We've Got The Tools, We've Got The Talent! Ghostbusters | ||||
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In terms of traditional DJ world, the design of the T1 is conducive to what? A bunch of exposed wires connecting into a book sized box that mounts where? Perhaps, just leave the T1 alone as is for our live musician compadres and design a new 1U or 2U piece of gear that addresses traditional DJ needs and DJ thinking in terms of 22nd century BOSE L1 compatibility forethought. Or... make the wired remotes a 1U rack device that controls two L1s independently so that it compliments a DJ mixer instead of half heatedly trying to replace it with something like the Tone Match. Cap Capello Bose L1 Family of Products | ||||
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A-MEN Cap... I play guitar & sing, not a DJ, but I still couldn't agree with you more. I don't use my T1 anymore, for several reasons, but definitely including the cluttered wires factor - HATED that! I built a special snake, and sort of a cover to hide the wires best as possible. My setup now is rack based, completely pre-wired, wireless mic & guitars, literally only ONE small cable at my feet to control my harmonizer via footswitch (solo, also only one small amp footswitch when I play band electric). I would think a rack controller with a feature-filled footswitch would be much better, both for live musicians AND DJ's... But, I'm not personally in the market, so that's just my observation from the peanut gallery, not a purchasing vote. Best, Mike | ||||
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Great ideas Cap! We've Got The Tools, We've Got The Talent! Ghostbusters | ||||
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Ok here goes with my 0.02p For me a good quality One-Box-Does-All DJ mixer needs to be : 1. Be Rack Mountable 2. Have L1 Serial (Remote) Connectors (x2) [To replace the remotes] 3. Have all the features of Denon HD2500 or similar player. 4. Have USB connectivity for DJ Software (PCDJ, OTSAv, etc) 5. Multiple Mic Inputs, with FX IF you want to have just a mixer, with no bells and whistles - #s 1,2 and 5 in the list above are absolutley essential Just My 0.02p Christopher David Principal DJ Christopher David Weddings, DJ Entertainment Skype : christopherdavid.weddingdj http://www.christopherdavidentertainment.co.uk (Website under Renovation) | ||||
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I like your ideas! We've Got The Tools, We've Got The Talent! Ghostbusters | ||||
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re: "Have L1 Serial (Remote) Connectors" Wouldn't wireless be nicer? (e.g.: Bluetooth) Just musing... | ||||
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Whilst wireless would be nice ..... that would cost exisiting users extra in hardware costs surely .... would be good if Bose included the hardware tho Christopher David Principal DJ Christopher David Weddings, DJ Entertainment Skype : christopherdavid.weddingdj http://www.christopherdavidentertainment.co.uk (Website under Renovation) | ||||
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at a MAP of $199 I'd be willing to try this wireless. http://braceaudio.com/page/products-1 Wide enough freq response too. | ||||
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See this discussion for a spin-off topic about wireless technology and digital wireless systems. Back to your regularly scheduled "T1 Features Poll". | ||||
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I wonder if Bose will ever finish or start to make another mixer??? It's been a while since this discussion was started. We've Got The Tools, We've Got The Talent! Ghostbusters | ||||
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