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Has anyone out there used a sub mixer on keyboards with the L1 model 2... does it resolve some of the 'flat' sound that happens in when deprived of the stereo mode?
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and the air went dead... LOL
 
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I have run a sub-mixer with keyboards, but I have never run in stereo. I just have never heard anyone running in stereo and it make any difference in the sound out in the crowd. I know it sounds gret to the player on stage, but that is where it begins and ends. On stage.
 
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I frequently use either a T1 or a Mackie 1202 as a submixer, both with my L1s (Model II and Classic) and other systems.

If the patch was not designed to work well in mono, there's nothing a submixer can do to help. What often helps resolve the "flat" sound the most is turning off the keyboard's reverb, chorus, etc.

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I agree with Alan's:
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...What often helps resolve the "flat" sound the most is turning off the keyboard's reverb, chorus, etc.
However, with a T1 ... or another mixer which allows a "Delay" effect to be applied to just one channel ... there is something additional you can try to change the "tonal quality" of mixing stereo channels down into a mono output.

What you do is apply a small delay -- on the order of 3 to 15ms (milliseconds) -- to just one of the stereo channels. You adjust the delay to listen for if it makes the sound 'better' to your ears.

This does NOT recreate the original "stereo" effects, but it can change the tonal quality of the sound by shifting which frequencies cancel each other during the mix-down to mono. (If the delay gets too large you start to hear the same 'note' on both channels as a "double strike" -- as two separate notes.)

With the T1, you can't do this using the stereo pair into Channels 4 & 5 ... you have to use two independent channels so that only one of them will have the delay effect added. (Channels 4 & 5 are summed to mono BEFORE any audio processing is done.)
 
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actually.....stereo DOES make a diff... just like a Leslie makes a diff.. when it throws the horn out there makes a kinda psycho acoustic effect.
I think im gonna put a MACKIE SRM 350 about 4 feet from the L1 , that will give a perceptive spread.
Thank you for all your input guys. I must say the compressor really beefs up the keyboard sound.. Just seems the Yamaha piano's are so dependant upon stereo imaging. Other sounds come through much better. And my Korg microX sounds stellar through L1 and 2 B1s

Many thanks
 
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