Hello all,

I use Reason 3.0 running rewire'd through ableton live, and was wondering what piano patches you all use. Any input would be helpful, or should i just go use my condenser's XY'd on a grand piano and create a new patch?

-Patrick

Hi, Patrick!
Welcome to your first post on this forum!

I can't offer any help regarding Reason or Ableton Live, but if you decide to create some of your own patches, there are some tips collected together here about micing a 'live' piano ... you may find them helpful.

Do you have an L1 you are using with your setup? If you don't mind sharing with us, it would be nice to know a bit about

• the kind of music you play
  
• the types of venues where you perform
  
• the typical audience sizes

... and anything else related to your music and the use of the L1 Systems.

Thanks for 'popping in'.

Hmm well at the moment i'm using the L1 as a bass amp for a 300-400 member church, though in my home studio and probably eventaully as a solo street corner/coffeehouse artist i'll be using it for piano and guitar as well as my vocals. I usually run everything through ableton and into a line input on my L1 to be able to compress/record/pitch correct etc my vocals and generate the piano sounds.
I use a midi controller and am having issues with stereo. The best, fullest sounding reason piano patches sound like they were mik'd spaced omnis in the typical piano miking placement (one towards the center, one towards the front for the high strings).

It becomes a huge problem because of not only phasing, but if i use only one channel either the highs or lows lose their accentuation.
Any set of patches anyone's come across that sound decent mono and/or stereo would be helpful in that regard

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Originally posted by Patrick-At-CarolinaPines:
...I use a midi controller and am having issues with stereo. The best, fullest sounding reason piano patches sound like they were mik'd spaced omnis in the typical piano miking placement (one towards the center, one towards the front for the high strings).

It becomes a huge problem because of not only phasing, but if i use only one channel either the highs or lows lose their accentuation ...

You've described the problem pretty precisely ... stereo samples created by two mics in different locations don't sum well to mono because of the fixed "distance delay" introduced. There are two other threads in this forum which touch on this topic (of stereo vs. mono keyboard sounds); you may want to peruse them (New Yamaha XS and The problem of stereo keyboards...).

The main 'tip' which may help is to introduce a short delay into just one channel before summing them to mono. The idea is to compensate for the distance-delay introduced by the original mic separation. Tweak the delay time until your ears tell you it's "right" -- and it's best to NOT do this with headphones, but listening to a single speaker (like the L1 ).