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A long time ago (c. 1990?) I bought a Korg T1 thinking this would be a good incentive to learn to play piano.

I talked my cousin (a jazz pianist of some ~ill~ repute) into giving me a lesson.

About 10 minutes into our first session we had a conversation:

he: Didn't you use to play guitar?
me: Yes but I sold them all in '77 and haven't touched one since.

he: If you want to play music, go buy a guitar.

So anyway, to make a very long story short, I've still got the T1 and I fired it up the other day thinking that maybe I'd try to play it. Of course, the battery is dead and the manual says that I need to take it to an authorized repair center. The thing weighs more than I can lift, and I don't have a vehicle large enough for it anyway so I did a search on the web. All I can find are people willing to sell me the *secret* instructions on how to do it.

Apparently it's not all that hard, but I don't want to take it off the stand until I know what I'll have to do next. I'd prefer not to start until I've got the replacement battery in hand. That way I won't have to leave it on the floor in pieces while I try to find a battery.

Anybody know what kind of battery it takes and know if I'd need to buy a soldering iron to complete the deed? Is this beyond the skillset of a below average tool jockey.

Oh, and the tie in here is that I'd want to run it through the Bose System.

Thanks guys.
 
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Hi ST,

This isn't a complete answer, but a friend of mine at least confirms that changing the battery isn't a task for the average end-user:

quote:
...if you have the program disks you [can] just load the operating system & sounds every time you boot up... The inside is a bit touchy and it's sort of awkward to take apart, especially with the big insulating foil shield around the keyboard.
 
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Thanks Alan,

I had forgotten about the floppy disk.

Sure enough I went back to the archives and found the original and the backup.

The original didn't work but the backup did (whew). Nothing lasts forever (and hey guys - floppy disks are no exception to this).

I loaded it and am in the process of making some more backups.
I did take a moment to check, and yup, it makes piano noises again.

Now where's that sustain pedal...
 
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Wow, ST! 'Sounds like a lot of work just to turn it on and play some piano, though I've read many reviews that rave about the T1's piano sound...

How does this equation look to you?

T1 + eBay +/- difference = brand new Triton
 
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Hi Chuck

Interesting idea. Looks like
T1 + eBay +/- difference = brand new Triton
<=>
difference = PS1 + L1 + B1

If I was going to spend the money, guess what I would do?

Actually it takes under 90 seconds to get going now that I know what to do.

Power On
Insert Disk
Press disk button
Press Load button
Press Yes button
Buzz, click, whir
Get "I'm happy" message
Press Piano patch

For the time being, the T1 will probably be fine. I got inspired to revive my sight-reading skills* and for that, 88 weighted keys that sound like a decent piano is probably all I need. Besides, that particular T1, is a reminder of one of life's object lessons. So I'll probably keep it around.

Thanks for the thought.

* thanks for that Alan
 
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And here I just thought that you wanted to jump into the sampled piano stereo vs mono fray...
 
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Originally posted by Alan Steinberger:
And here I just thought that you wanted to jump into the sampled piano stereo vs mono fray...


What? And venture where angels fear to tread?

Thanks for helping Alan. I think I'm set for now.

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In fact the battery is quite simple to replace. The danger is making absolutely you ground YOURSELF before replacing it so that you do not short-circuit one of the boards within it.

The T1 Korg has a "lid" you can life to access the brains. The retaining screws, however, are beneath the instrument and so you have to remove them first. They are 3 in number; one at the left and right ends and the third in the center.
TIP: Mark them with masking tape for the future. You'll have to replace a battery more than once.

Suggest you have TWO people for this operation to keep the instrument from falling open into two halves. Do this way:

1. Place the instrument on its backside
2. One person stablize and hold
3. Second person remove retaining screws.
4. Now both persons carefully set the instrument back down on its feet.
5. Open carefully and note that the top shell opens exactly at 90-degrees; as such, the lid can easily fall, so have the asst stabilize the top while you replace the battery.
6. The battery is located under the center chipboard (it's the largest one). You will have to remove 4 retaining screws on the backside of the Korg and some 3-4 retaining screws that mount the chipboard to the inside base of the Korg.
7. NOTE GROUNDING WIRES, if there are any, and be sure you ground them to the same place from whence they came when you finish replacing the battery.
8. Also, do a gentle "test" closing of the lid before you actually seat the lid permanently and replace the retaining screws. Make sure no wire or etc have fallen under the feet that support the lid (easy error to commit).

If you won't be moving your Korg around (taking it to gigs, etc.) you may consider not replacing the retaining screws on the bottom. This allows you to open the lid in the future to fix other problems (replacment of switches, keys, buttons, etc.).

Meanwhile, don't be screwed into purchasing a replacement Floppy for the usual $128 - $300 gougers charge for it. Go online to teac.com and purchase their p/n 193077C5-29, which is made expressly for the Korg T1. They're about $18 (suggest you buy 2 for the future. As of Oct 2006 you could still purchase these from Teac).

There is a problem with the Teac replacement which is the ribbon that connects it to the center chipboard (it's the longest ribbon, can't miss it). A jumpwire has to be added that connects pins 12 and 16. Strongly suggest you have an electronics shop do this for you unless you are qualified.

Hope this helps.

Meanwhile, I'm looking to purchase another T1 in GREAT shape. If you have one or know someone who does, I'll greatly appreciate the contact. I can be reached at: tssent@fusemail.com. I am Jim.
 
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Corazon

Thank you for this!

About having a T1 in GREAT shape - I think mine would qualify - years of neglect being its greatest tragedy.

Where are you?
What kind of music do you play?

Are you playing your T1 through an L1™ ?
 
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ST...
If you're of a mind to part with the T1, I'm looking to purchase a second T1. Please advise. You may contact me via tssent@fusemail.com
Jim
 
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Originally posted by ST:
Corazon

Thank you for this!

About having a T1 in GREAT shape - I think mine would qualify - years of neglect being its greatest tragedy.

Where are you?


ST, contact me at tssent@fusemail.com and we can exchange telephone numbers to chat about your T1 and what you'd take for it. Jim
What kind of music do you play?

Are you playing your T1 through an L1™ ?
 
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Originally posted by Corazon:
In fact the battery is quite simple to replace. The danger is making absolutely sure you ground YOURSELF before replacing it so that you do not short-circuit one of the boards within it.

The T1 Korg has a "lid" you can lift to access the brains. The retaining screws, however, are beneath the instrument and so you have to remove them first. They are 3 in number; one at the left and right ends and the third in the center.
TIP: Mark them with masking tape for the future. You'll have to replace a battery more than once.

Suggest you have TWO people for this operation to keep the instrument from falling open into two halves. Do this way:

1. Place the instrument on its backside;
2. One person stablize and hold;
3. Second person remove retaining screws;
4. Now both persons carefully set the instrument back down on its feet;
5. Open carefully and note that the top shell opens exactly at 90-degrees; as such, the lid is prone to fall easily, so have the asst stabilize the top while you replace the battery;
6. The battery is located under the center chipboard (it's the largest one). You will have to remove 4 retaining screws on the backside of the Korg and some 3-4 retaining screws that mount the chipboard to the inside base of the Korg;
7. NOTE GROUNDING WIRES, if there are any, and be sure you ground them to the same place from whence they came when you finish replacing the battery;
8. Also, do a gentle "test" closing of the lid before you actually seat the lid permanently and replace the retaining screws. Make sure no wire or etc have fallen under the feet that support the lid (easy error to commit).

If you won't be moving your Korg around very much (taking it to gigs, etc.) you may consider not replacing the retaining screws on the bottom. It closes tightly enough w/out the screws and won't allow dust in, even if you don't replace the screws. This allows you to open the lid in the future to fix other problems (replacment of switches, keys, buttons, etc.).

Meanwhile, don't be screwed into purchasing a replacement Floppy for the usual $128 - $300 gougers charge for it. Go online to teac.com and purchase their p/n 193077C5-29, which is made expressly for the Korg T1. They're about $18 (suggest you buy 2 for the future. As of Oct 2006 you could still purchase these from Teac).

There is a problem with the Teac replacement which is the ribbon that connects it to the center chipboard (it's the longest ribbon, can't miss it). A jumpwire has to be added that connects pins 12 and 16. Strongly suggest you have an electronics shop do this for you unless you are qualified.

Hope this helps.

Meanwhile, I'm looking to purchase another T1 in GREAT shape. If you have one or know someone who does, I'll greatly appreciate the contact. I can be reached at: tssent@fusemail.com. I am Jim.
 
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Originally posted by Corazon:
ST...
If you're of a mind to part with the T1, I'm looking to purchase a second T1. Please advise. You may contact me via tssent@fusemail.com
Jim
 
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Originally posted by Corazon:
quote:
Originally posted by ST:
Corazon

Thank you for this!

About having a T1 in GREAT shape - I think mine would qualify - years of neglect being its greatest tragedy.

Where are you?


ST, contact me at tssent@fusemail.com and we can exchange telephone numbers to chat about your T1 and what you'd take for it. Jim
What kind of music do you play?

Are you playing your T1 through an L1™ ?


ST, anxiously awaiting communication from you about purchasing your T1. I have 1 other I'm about to purchase but would like to learn about yours first. I need to move on this quickly because I need it for 2 gigs Christmas, so I must hear from you quickly.

Please contact me at tssent@fusemail.com.

Corazon
 
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Originally posted by Corazon:
quote:
Originally posted by ST:
Corazon

Thank you for this!

About having a T1 in GREAT shape - I think mine would qualify - years of neglect being its greatest tragedy.

Where are you?

I'm in Austin. You can reach me via tssent@fusemail.com. Please reply quickly if you're interested in selling as I've located a T1 in Alabama. I'd like to purchase whichever of the 2 (yours or his) is in the best shape.
Jim (11.23.06)

Are you playing your T1 through an L1™ ?
 
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Corazon

Thank you for this!

About having a T1 in GREAT shape - I think mine would qualify - years of neglect being its greatest tragedy.

Where are you?
What kind of music do you play?

11.23.06....ST, I'm in Austin and play everything, classic to jazz and beyond. Are you still offering your T1? If so, I need to hear from you quickly at tssent@fusemail.com
Jim
Are you playing your T1 through an L1™ ?
 
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Hi Jim,

Sorry, I missed this.

I'm in Canada, and logistics and cost associated with shipping this to Texas are daunting. I just got off the phone with UPS.

UPS will not pick up something this big. Nor will they give a firm quote over the phone because it is "over sized* but even shipping by ground we're looking at several hundred dollars. They won't give me a firm quote unless I take it a UPS store.

I'm afraid it's here permanently - as I don't have a sane way to transport it to a UPS store.

Sorry about that - I think I'll just take your advice and put in a new battery.
 
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I had to replace the battery in my Korg T1 and I have all of the stuff neccessary to load the sysex file back into the T1 but for the life of me, I can't figure out how to set up the T1 to receive the data. I'm using the sysex file downloaded from Korg's website and MIDI-OX to send the file via an M-Audio USB to MIDI converter. Any help would be appreiciated. Also, if anyone knows where to download the factory floppy disk, that would be greatly appreciated as well.

Thanks.
 
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All,

I have a 2 year old Hammond XK-1. What is required on the Korg T1 is way beyond me. Any idea on how long the Korg T1 battery lasted? When I bought the XK-1, the salesman dragged an XK 2 demonstrator out from UNDER some other keyboards. The future looks pretty grim. Any thoughts would really be appreciated.

Wayne
 
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All,

I think B3 GUYS will solve this problem for me.

Wayne
 
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