On another forum we have been having a heated battle as to whether or not the use of two Compacts or L1's could be used to produce a stereo sound - or would blend into a monophonic mix?

The concept involves using the right and left outs of an arranger keyboard and plugging one cord into each Bose. Or, running the keyboard thru a mixer with separate mixes going out to the Bose. Would there be an effect similar to what is heard from the arranger's own speakers or something akin to a regular stereo setup or... something completely different?

Does anyone have knowledge or experience of using two sticks and attempting stereo output?

Hi cassp,

Here is a link to search results for stereo on the L1 wiki.

http://toonz.ca/bose/wiki/inde...ereo&searchx=Search+

The L1s work great in stereo. Whether or not it is neccessary or better than mono is a personal decision.

O..

I've done it with two L1's and a Kurzweil PC2X. The stereo image was strong onstage because I was sitting between the L1's. Off stage the stereo image was far less pronounced, but very effective compared to a conventional system.

With a conventional system, if an audience member sits to the far left they can't hear the far right speaker very well, and they only hear half of the audio info. Two L1's do far better, as the closer of the L1's doesn't drown out the far L1, and the far L1 (not being as directional) has a better chance of being heard at an odd angle.

Sitting further back in the audience is very pleasing even though the stereo effect may be lost at the back of the room.

So, two L1's will be heaven for you and overkill for someone else.

That being said, I use two L1's whenever possible.

Cameron Hizer

Hi cassp,


Adding a Bose voice to the chorus, there is no reason that two L1 Compacts won't produce a good stereo field.

As mentioned already, L1 systems in general produce quite satisfying and large stereo fields because of the radiation pattern of the systems.

The Model I and Model II will produce a deeper stereo field than the Compact because the falloff of sound with distance is so gradual.

Try it some time where you stand next to one and can still hear the other!!!

Ken

I almost forgot about this.

I was at a church once that had a keyboard amp (Behringer I think). I was running with only two people, so I only brought one of my L1 with two B1's. I ran through a Mackie 1202 and then into the L1 on the left and the Behringer on the right. I kept non-stereo things (like bass and vocals) panned to the left (L1) and keys and drum machine into both the left and the right.

Sounded great.

Cameron

I'm also from the same Forum Cassp is referring to.



Hey Cassp! Nice to see ya over here!

Welcome to the Forum of Enlightenment....

I realise this is an old topic by now but I've run 2 Compacts out of my Tyros3 and the sound was SENSATIONAL.

Those listening (all experienced keyboard players) said that what was even more amazing than the quality of the sound and the panning was the depth into the room of the 'seet spot' where you could clearly hear stereo.

Freddie

I have a Privia PX-3 digital piano that I have been running thru a single L1 & B1 and it sounds great. The DSP effects on this new piano sound fantastic in stereo (especially the rotary speaker effect) but they do tend to get lost running thru the single PAS. At the next gig, I'm going to run the stereo outputs on the piano into two PAS (about 6' apart) and see how it all sounds in comparison.

Is it ok to use an L1 Model 11 and a compact together and will I get stereo

2 different speaker for stereo?

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Originally posted by RF-Musiker/ Musician:
2 different speaker for stereo?

Yes, one can use two different types of speakers in order to get a stereo effect -- however, it may not be consistent from one side of the listening area to the other.

I have had good success with two different spkrs, like an L1 and a small keyboard amp. Usually only a keyboard or a drum machine need stereo treatment, so I run mono things thru the L1 only, and stereo things thru both. Experiment with which L or R keyboard output goes to the L1 as you might find a better sound.

My guess is that the average listener in the audience would not have a clue as to if they were hearing in stereo or not. Probably never even think about it.

That being said, as a keyboard player, I have run my Kurzweil 2600 with stereo EV100's behind me and I can clearly hear the stereo. About 3 years ago, we dumped the traditional FOH/monitors and as many amps as possible, utilizing the 4 L1 set for everything except the lead guitar playing through a mic'd Blues Jr into a T1 channel. At that point, I lost my stereo keys.

A bandmate from my former band and I do DJ gigs from time to time and run 2 L1M2B2's and run the computer in stereo. When you sit in between the stereo sound is unbelievable.

In my current band, we now run 4 L1M2B2T1. I currently only play with 1 B1, but am going to add another. We are going to run the right keys stereo channel out to another L1. The few times that we formerly ran stereo keys through the Bose, it presented itself both on stage and out into the audience as a seperate voice, much like you would hear if you added another vocal or instrument . To my ears, it broadened the keyboard presence and is well worth the cost.

Thanks for your comments, "Mister Riley"! Welcome to your first post on this forum!

Stereo keys can be quite nice; even nicer, I've found is if you can split two (or more) of the keyboard voices into left & right channels ... e.g.: have piano from the Left and a Wurlitzer organ or a "pad" (strings) from the Right. That gives the effect of having two separate players!