We've heard lots of positive comments from horn and flute players who are enjoying the benefits of the Personalized Amplification System™. Just out of curiosity, is anyone using the wind controller (i.e. Yamaha WX Series, Casio, Akai) and sound module approach with our system?

I was testing the WX5 for about 2 months before I decided to send it back. I liked the way the PAS handled the bass notes, espically when I would trigger sub bass sounds. The instrument is just not my style.

I use a WX-5 with the VL70m loaded with Patchman's Turbo Chip. Way cool. (I grew up playing sax). Midi to my keyboards too. The sax sounds are great on this puppy. And of course the PAS makes it all that much better.
Favorite so far is VL70m on ExprAlto, Motif 6 on Sweet Flute. and Proteus 1 on Thunder Bass. Yes there will be others.

Thanks for the replies, folks...

I just read that a wireless MIDI product has recently been approved by the FCC. (See Kenton MidiStream) At last! Freedom from the 'anchor' of a MIDI cable...

I've been dreaming of such freedom. Hope it works.

I use the WX5 with 2 turbo charged VL70m’s and a VL1-m, the other night I took the PAS with my wind controller rig to a local jam. Someone called “Mess’n with the Kid”, I called up a stack with one VL doing a tenor sax, one doing a Bari sax and the VL1 doing a trumpet. I laid into the intro and the band stopped and laughed, the consensus was that it sounded like three guys. We started again and there were a bunch of smiles on that stage. Most of these guys know me and I’ve played in bands with several of them using pretty much the same synths. I was told later on that night that that was the first time they had “really” heard my wind controller.
When you can hear what VL synthesis can do it’s amazing, I’ve searched for years to find an amp that would truly reproduce, at stage volumes, what a VL can do. The PAS fills that need the best of anything I’ve ever owned, and I’ve spent a lot of money in that search. To me now, the PAS is just as important as any piece of my wind controller gear.

Thanks Bose.

Chuck

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Chuck, you got the toys you WX5MAN you!

I'm also a WX5 player, with the VL-70m and the Patchman chip. LOVE the way it sounds through the system - really brings out the voices, as well as the nuiances that the WX adds. Actually, the system makes me practice more, to make sure the way I play an instrument voice is true to that instrument - since the sound of it is so clear, it sounds funny if this great oboe sound is heard, but the articulation and such doesn't match! :-)

I've played EVI (many) for going on 20 years. In my experiences, the advent of wind controllers is the ONLY significant event in music technology over the past 30 years that can come close to rivaling the advent of the PAS. Of course, we realize that accuracy is always a 2-edged sword, and the painful reality of the PAS has meant additional forays into voice programming that I never knew were necessary - mostly in reducing (again! LOL) effects on patches.

You see - such clarity in sound demands further clarity in ALL voices coming from the PAS - and I have found my innability to hear precisely what my EVI (and VL-1, Oberheims, rolands, korgs, etc) was outputting in the past led me to some level of complacentcy. Now? It's all good. You can't fix what you can't hear - and now I hear EVERYTHING!

Ken

I have been playing the Yamaha WX5 for about a year and a half. I use 3 VL70-m's with Patchman Turbo chips. I have only had one gig so far useing the Pas but it was killer. I haven't had that much fun on a job in a long time. I concur with Ken's post on the clarity issue. I have had to reduce the effects on all of the patches I use. It was Ken that talked me into this system and I have never been so happy with a piece of equipment other than my Windcontroller Rig.A bigger test is coming this weekend. We have a Friday-Saturday in the park festival thing.I did have a little feedback thing at the end of the night. I will be more careful on the setup, placement of the mic, and have taken the Suggestion of Ken at Bose to purchase an Audix OM5 mic. I will report back how it all went. I have displayed the Pas on my website for others to view. You can view my site here:
http://electricmotorsales.net/bobhunt/

Bob,

Thanks for the link to your website. It's great to see how you have documented how graphically different (simpler) everything is with the Bose Personalized Amplification Systerm ™.

I too went on the Bose weight reduction plan...

Get a Bose Personal Amplification System™ and shed 50 to 150 pounds overnight.

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Bob - what mic was giving you feedback challenges? I'm interested in any differences you notice using the OM-5.

And a great addition, to an already great and informative website! You're a valuable resource to the windcontroller community , and hopefully we here on the Bose forum will gain from you're further participation.

Ken

Hi Ken and All,

The Mic I used was a Shure SM58 which I understand is a cardioid design. The OM-5 is a Hyper-Cardioid design. Essentially it is supposed to be hotter yet has a very tight pattern. The tight pattern is intended to minimize feedback.

Thanks for your kind words.
http://electricmotorsales.net/bobhunt/

Hey all,

Great day in the morning! The Sox made history AND there's another new device for wireless MIDI!

WOW! Wireless MIDI SOX! I got to get a pair of those! I’m still using the old wired kind and they really hinder my stage antics and dancing. Thanks for the heads up.


Chuck



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Here are the events leading to today. Last year I picked up a Yamaha WX5 and vl70m module. After 3 months of playing it in my home I was ready to sell it off on Ebay. I was not satisfied, to say the least, with the patches. Then, I got the Turbo Chip which made a world of difference. I mainly use the flute and muted trumpet sounds so finding ones as close to a natural sound was essential.

But after playing it on the job I was getting pretty discouraged with the sound quality. I was using a Fender 130 PA mainly for portability and convenience and I know that was part of the cause of my woes. I usually don't mic my alto or soprano since most venues I play aren't that large, but when I do use a mic it is a Shure BETA 98.

Well, since getting my PAS last week, I have had the chance to plug in my WX5 and what a refreshing sound is coming out of it. True to what many have already posted, the sound and sensitivity of the WX is VERY GOOD!! My next step is to hook up my mic and also my minidisk tracks to it, probably through my Mackie mixer. Any input on this is highly invited.

My first gig with all my gear will be next week when I play a black tie silent auction dinner. I will post reviews of the evening when it is over.

Well, the Bose PAS and I made our debut performance last Friday evening at a black tie affair. It took no time at all to set up the PAS. More time was spent on moving all my gear from the car to the second floor dining room. Luckily there was a small service elevator available.

The sound was fantastic in the room which held about 250. People commented on: the clarity of the sound, that it sounded like a whole room system, the great bass response (I only bought one bass unit) and many other kudos.

Throughout the evening, I played several patches from my WX% and VL70m with Turbo PROM Chip. I mainly use the Muted Trpt and NZ Flute but for the entertainment of a fellow musician in the crowd, I threw in the Organ, Guitar and Bass sounds with great reactions.

When announcements were made, the speaker had the house's wireless microphone. However, people could not hear it very good at all. That's when I quickly plugged in a mic into one of the open channels of my Mackie mixer and handed it to the host. People immediately marveled at the great sound from that skinny column.

My only dilema lies in finding an easier way to transport it from my car to the venue site. Any suggestions on this? All in all, I am VERY satisfied on the audio quality of the PAS. Thanks to all the researchers and technicians for getting us back to where we belong.

Congratulations on a great gig Eugene. Thanks for posting about it and all the details (lost on me but I'm sure others will understand them). (I play guitar).

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My only dilema lies in finding an easier way to transport it from my car to the venue site. Any suggestions on this? All in all, I am VERY satisfied on the audio quality of the PAS. Thanks to all the researchers and technicians for getting us back to where we belong.

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If I am travelling solo, I usually bring along a 2 wheeled luggage dolly but this still requires two trips from car to venue site. Actually, this usually turns into three trips (one trip is for instruments and gig bag).

If multiple trips is not feasible or undesireable, I bring a four wheeled dolly and lay everything flat on it. This puts less mileage on me, but takes more room in the car.

There are some nifty custom bags from Bose that have might allow you to do things in one trip, but I think you probably would have to make another trip for your instruments.

I just took a quick look on the main Bose site, but couldn't find a link about ordering them, or a picture. I hope one of the *-at-Bose folks will chime in here with some info for you.