Hello Bose,

I'm currently using the AMT Roam 1 Elite microphone. Has anyone tried the PAS with this microphone and if so, what were the results.

Thanks!

Jack Prybylski

Jack
There is probably a slight difference between the Roam 1 Elite and the AMT P-800 that I use, but I use 00 for a preset. The mic is so natural sounding and clear, that any presets I try take away from it. Maybe start with 00, then try some of the others to see whay "YOU" favor.

Lou

Jack,

Welcome to the Bose neighborhood. It's good to see a fellow SOTW-er (Sax on the Web-er)here. Did you take the Bose plunge yet?

I've been intrigued by the AMT Roam system (I currently use an AKG C-419), but turned off by the clamp system. I typically play alto, tenor & bari on a gig, and need to make quick changes. How long does it take to move it from one horn to another?

Bob

Lou & Bob,

Thanks for the replys. Haven't taken the plunge yet, but real close to falling off the fence. Are you guys using the bass module?

Bob,

Glad to hear from a fellow SOTW member! Nice to meet you! I'm using the Roam on soprano, alto and tenor. Changing the mic to different horns is really not a problem, just takes a couple of seconds. You could get multiple clamps for your horns and just slide the mic unit into each clamp.

Thanks for your help guys!

Jack

Sorry Jack

I didn't realize when you first posted, that you were a sax player. I am a trumpet player and do not use any bass modules. When I tried out my bose unit in the Guitar center store, we didn't notice any improvement in tonal characteristices for the trumpet, when we added a B1 sub woofer, and in fact it made thumping noises when I pressed down the valves, that we didn't hear without it connected. We (Chuck from Bose and I) tried using the eq to turn it down, but that didn't seem to help much. I have NOT tried it with my AMT mic though. That could make a big difference, since these mics have those isolation rings that really work well. At the time I tested at Guitar center, I was using a different mic. From what I've read, a bass module might compliment the lower registers of a sax though. I think it is something you have to try out for yourself.
My sax player played through my bose setup with alto and tenor in a big hall, and he sounded really nice. We didn't seem to "need" any more low end, but we never got the chance to A/B it.

Lou

Jack,

I bought 2 units, each with bass module. One is for my drummer & bass player, and the other is for my keys, vocal & the horn section (I'm using a small mixer). I did try it with and without bass module using both my AKG C-419 and a Sennheiser 421. Here's what I found:

Alto - no significant differences.
Tenor - slight difference when playing in the lower register, especially below E. If you honk out a low Bb, you can shake the walls.
Bari - big difference. I've never been particularly happy with the AKG on Bari, but I definitely noticed an improvement. With the Sennheiser it really rocked! Makes me think about keeping one set up on stage when I have the room for it.

I would say that if you don't play bari, the B-1 is just "Nice to have".

We have a bone player in our band as well, so I decided to keep the B-1 connected to the horn tower. I'm contemplating buying another B-1 so the bass player / drums will have a double B-1 config.

We use 3 towers for 7 people, and are hoping to add a fourth one soon. Then the guitar players won't have to share. I'm trying to get our lead singer / rhythm guitarist to splurge. If I hit the lottery, I will buy another one to split the horns away from the keys / vocal.

Regards,

Bob

This is not a push for the additional sale of the B1, just to add that if you'll ever be using the unit to playback prerecorded music, or ever want to use it for instruments that are active in the bass or baritone range (folks sitting in etc) you'll want a B1.

Ken,

I agree completely. My comments about the B-1 were strictly limited to using it for the saxophone. We horn players are just as picky about our tone as the guitar players!

Bob

Hi Jack,
I have been using the Roam 1 Elite for almost a year now with the PAS on Bari and Alto and the sound is better then any wireless clip on I have ever used. It is a little less feedback resistant then some of the other wirelese mics but the sound trade off is so much better. I play with a four piece horn section through one PAS and use the "02" preset (preset version 1.0) as we have different mics run through a mixer into channels one and two. As far as the clip goes, it's the easiest of any wireless I have used too. It takes longer to unclip my horns from my neck strap and switch then it does to move the mic. Regarding B1's, I echo Saxhounds response. For soprano and alto it's not necessary but tenor it adds a little more bottom and for bari definitely. If you are going to play recorded music then a B1 is necessary too.
Good luck with your decisions!

Dean Randall
The Groove Merchants
www.groovemerchants.com

Dean,

Do you use multiple clips and move just the mic, or do you move the entire assembly? The Roam 1 that I saw at Sam Ash had a thumbscrew type clip that you had to loosen to get off the horn. It took me about 30 to 45 seconds to remove it and put it back on the horn. My AKG has a spring loaded squeeze clip that I can move in 5 seconds or less.

Bob

Saxhound,
The one I have has a spring loaded clip and takes about 5 seconds. I just move the whole mic. I got mine through The Woodwind/Brasswind and the price was around $575-$599 for the whole wireless setup. Are you looking at the Roam 1 Elite series? I know there are several models of the Roam wireless setups.

Dean

Dean,

The one I saw was a wired model - not sure if it was the Elite. I think it was about $229.00. I'll tale a look at the WWBW web site, although sometimes their pictures are missing or not accurate. I'm about due for a visit there anyway. It's only 90 miles away.

Thanks,

Bob

Hi Bob,
Here's the WWBW link to the one I have:

http://www.wwbw.com/AMT-ROAM-1-Elite-i130943.music

There are six different frequencies so if you have any other Samson wireless mics, make sure you get a different frequency. Good luck!

Dean

The Roam 1 Elite arrived yesterday from WWBW! Looks like I will be busy today checking it out with presets. It's much heavier than I expected. Hopefully a sign of quality construction. I'm looking forward to not catching my belt pack wire on every little thing on the stage.

Hi Bob,

Just wondering how you like the Roam 1? I'm taking my to Guitar Center on Saturday to work out with the PAS. Looking forward to the results.

Take care!

Jack

Just FYI - Apllied Microphone technolgy's direct website, with artist links, can be found at:

http://www.appliedmic.com/

Ken

Hi Jack,

So far I'm liking it a lot. It's got a very smooth & even sound across all octaves, even on bari sax, which is where my AKG wasn't cutting it. It's a toss-up between 00 and 02 on the v2 presets. I usually mix all the horns through a small mixer into channel 3 anyway, so presets are academic until I get another PAS.

I tried it through my Digitech effects unit as well, and when I played the octave doubled up & down patch, I saw some plaster dust trickling down from the ceiling. My dogs didn't like it very much!

One thing I noticed is that I really had to back the bass down to get rid of the key thump. I thought the suspension system would dampen that more. When I closed the low A key on my bari, it sounded like a kick drum. Even with the bass dialed down, I was pretty excited about the sound. First gig with it is Saturday, so I'll have some more impressions soon.

Bob

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Originally posted by Dean Randall:
Hi Jack,
I have been using the Roam 1 Elite for almost a year now with the PAS on Bari and Alto and the sound is better then any wireless clip on I have ever used. It is a little less feedback resistant then some of the other wirelese mics but the sound trade off is so much better. I play with a four piece horn section through one PAS and use the "02" preset (preset version 1.0) as we have different mics run through a mixer into channels one and two. Dean Randall
The Groove Merchants
www.groovemerchants.com

Dean, I too, have the Roam 1, and have had a horrendous time with feedback. I usually need to jack up the trim on my mixer to get enough gain on it as well. I sent it back for repair and adjustment recently, as the soundmen at a show couldn't get a consistant signal from it. The tech guy said that sometimes the mic & Samson "sending unit" are sometimes not synched before being sold. So, apparently it's now tight, but I can't seem to play it (even being a good 10 feet in front & to the side of the PAS) without screeching. Friday, as a few times in the past, I just had to put it down, and use my mic, as it was far too distracting.

What could be going on? And which preset do you use in Ver.2?

Thanks....

(PS, I'm using it for tenor & soprano)

Are you running your Roam1 through a mix board, BEFORE you send it to the Bose L1? If so, your first fix would be to go direct to the Bose technology.

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Originally posted by jazzhorn1:
Are you running your Roam1 through a mix board, BEFORE you send it to the Bose L1? If so, your first fix would be to go direct to the Bose technology.

That's fine, but impractical, as I run other mics & tracks, etc. as well, and need the channels, plus I don't like running the saxes dry....