The Unofficial Users' Guide
for the Bose® Personalized Amplification System™ family of products.
December 23, 2006
The Unofficial Bose® L1™ Wiki is the new site for the Unofficial Users' and Performers' Guides. The information in this thread may not be as current as in the new wiki, but I will leave it here for backup and historical interest.
Bose® L1™ Wiki is your new source for the latest Unofficial information.
What follows is the older version.
If you just got your System or want to get to know it better, you are in the right place.
If you just got a gig and have found out the house system is a Bose Personalized Amplication System™ you probably want to read the Unofficial Performers' Guide.
This is a collection of advice, hints and tips from system owners and people-at-Bose gathered from the Bose® Musicians Community Message Boards. If you would like to add to this living document please post a reply in this discussion. Remember, there is also great information in the Official Product FAQs.
Carrying the Gear
Terminology & Concepts
Working with Others
Want to Help?If you would like to add to this living document or make suggestions about it, please post a reply in this discussion (thread).
2005/12/29 Spares (just in case)
2005/12/22 New intro and link to the Unofficial Performers' Guide
2005/12/22 Hard Shell Cases
2005/12/12 L1 Cylindrical Radiator Update - Adjustable Bayonets
2005/12/10 L1 components and PS1 interchangeability
2005/12/07 Localization, Spaciousness, and Reverb added to Terminology Section
2005/12/01 Effects added link to Hilmar's Effects 101
2005/11/06 Presets - More insights
2005/10/31 Longer Cables for B1s
2005/10/25 Zipper Sounds - Remote
2005/10/25 Daisy Chaining Remotes (no you can't)
2005/10/25 Hilmar's notes about the A1 PackLite
2005/09/29 Connections to the PS1 Power Stand
2005/09/24 Effects using VoiceLive and GR-20 - thanks Deakes
2005/09/23 Terminology Equal Loudness Curves
2005/09/14 Introducing Performers to the Bose System
2005/09/13 PS1 power stand - updated with comments from Cliff-at-Bose
2005/09/11 Stage Layouts - MTM suggested that I add this
2005/09/08 Interactive Tour of the I/O panel (link to the main Bose site)This message has been edited. Last edited by: ST,
2005/09/08 Presets - added links to pdf and text versions of the preset lists
2005/09/08 Hearing oneself with the Bose... - jmead suggested that we include this
2005/09/08 Effects - new section
2005/09/08 update to Deluxe Logo Bags (notice about expiry of free bags offer)
2005/08/15 Mixers - Gittar-Jonz
2005/08/15 Gain Staging (added link to General Principles)
2005/08/14 more notes on Gain Staging ( Owners - several of them talk about Gain Staging)
2005/08/12 L1 section: Pictures - Damage from inserting the L1 upside down
2005/08/11 New Section - Instrument Tips - Acoustic Guitar
2005/08/08 first version
A little history, and how you can help.
Guitarget had an idea for a Lessons Learned Document.
Since our message board is a dynamic (albeit big) document, I'll volunteer to help organize a living document.
How you can help - Links
Post a link (see link notes below) in this thread pointing to your favourite discussion or post with a memorable lesson.
Tell us what you thought was memorable or important in your post, and if you happen to have a link to a related topic in the official FAQs or support pages this will be a huge help. You can also send me a Private Message if that's easier for you.
How you can help - Favourite Lessons
If you just have a thought to share just post it in the most appropriate area of the forum (Technical, at the Gig, etc.) and then post a link to it here.
I'll organize a page of your contributions and add links to things in the official FAQs that are related.
As long as you keep sending me links, I'll keep updating the page.
If you are familiar with the common practice of having 'stickies' in forums, that's what we will do with the colllected wisdom.
So thanks to Guitarget for the inspiration.
Let's get it rolling.
Posting a link is easy
For an Entire Discussion
right click in the area where the web address is visible (e.g. http://bose.infopop.cc/eve/forums?a=tpc&f=.....) then click 'copy' in the popup menu.
Compose a message and when you get to the place where you want to insert the link, right click and click 'paste'.
You can use the fancy system for inserting the link, but for our purposes in this thread, displaying the whole address is fine.
For an Individual Post
In the post to which you create a link, right click this icon
click Copy Shortcut (Internet Explorer) or Copy Link Location (Mozilla/Netscape)
-or- simply click that icon and copy the web address from the address bar in your browser.
Compose a message and when you get to the place where you want to insert the link, right click and click 'paste'.This message has been edited. Last edited by: ST,
B1 Bass Module
The most current version of this information is now in the B1 Bass Module section of the wiki.
New: 2006/01/20 - Checking B1 Connections
You may want to double check your Blue B1 cables. See instructions in the note above.
If you are getting low end feedback, especially with acoustic instruments try re-orienting the B1. Try different angles. It often doesn't take much.
Lesson: Keep the B1s together (revised - you don't have to stack 'em)
If you have more than one B1 playing the same sound source (instrument), keep the B1s together. You should get as much as 3 dB more than if you have them separated. This is due to acoustic coupling. This also avoids creating nulls.
You can stack them or have them side-by-side but you want to keep them together.
You can rotate the Bose logo so it is parallel to the floor even if you have turned the B1 on its side.
Click the image below for more info.
-- click the image above to see how to do it --
Lesson: Port Orientation
"Theoretically, port-side-up may give a tiny bit better aligned floor reflection but in practice, the difference is so small that it isn't worth bothering with.
However, I would still advise when you stack multiple B1s keep them all in the same orientation."
See Hilmar's comments about this in context
When I read this, I had to go and look very closely to find the port. It's easier to figure out that when the B1 is on it's side, port side up is same as (on the back) connection panel down.
Longer cables for B1s
See: Longer cables for the B1
Question: How low does the B1 go? 40 Hz - but my Bass, goes lower than that.
Answer: Hilmar-at-Bose talks about How low does the B1 go?
Cliff-at-Bose talks about Positioning the B1 and proximity to wallsThis message has been edited. Last edited by: ST,
L1 Cylindrical Radiator® loudspeaker
Lesson: Keep the audience in the column of sound
If you are on an elevated stage, remember that people above or below the Cylindrical Radiator™ will not be in the coverage area.
Hint: Tip the PowerStand by a few degrees from the back or the front by a few degrees. Easy ways to do this: Fold a B1 case and tuck it under the front or the back. If you have the logo bags with the wheels, then leaving the PowerStand in the case will naturally tip it down. I carry a couple of sheets of bubble pack packing material in the case and fold it to suit.
Lesson: Be careful how you insert the lower section. If you insert it upside down you may damage the connector in the PowerStand.
Kyle-at-Bose posted Pictures of the damage
Lesson: If you notice a change in the propagation properties of the System, check that the sound is coming from both the top and bottom sections. If not, dissassemble and reassemble the L1 making sure that everything connects firmly.
Lesson: Slapback echo
If you are getting echos from the wall opposite the stage tip the PowerStand a little (1 or 2° should do it).
Lesson: Do not remove the Bayonet
The Bayonet should not be removed from the top section of the L1. It may be a stretch at first, but you can get the top portion of the L1 into the carrying bag.
Lesson: The Bayonet can be adjusted for easier mouting/dismounting with lower ceilings.
Newer L1 Cylindrical Radiator(r) loudspeakers have bayonets with three holes. With the upper L1 on a table or floor, you can easily unscrew the two Phillips-head screws from the Bayonet and reposition the Bayonet so that it does not protrude as much out from the upper L1. This gains you an extra inch of space when mounting/dismounting the upper L1 in places where the ceiling height is less than ideal. Contributed by Kyle-at-Bose
If you have more than one System, you do *not* have to keep all the pieces in sets as they were delivered.
See it in context
edit: Bayonet can be adjusted contributed by Kyle-at-BoseThis message has been edited. Last edited by: ST,
PS1 Power Stand
Lesson: Leaving it in the bag
It is okay to do this if you like (and personally I find it a lot quicker for setup/teardown)
Hilmar speaks about the heat (relates to leaving it in the bag).
quoting Cliff-at-Bose about the flip-up door on the Power Stand, and getting the L1 with bayonet into the bag:
"I took my cover off right away and couldn't even tell you where it is right now. The carry bag for the PS1 seems to do a good job of keeping things clean in storage, the trunk, in transit. For the upper L1 section, turn it upside down, grab it by the bayonet, lower it into the bag and the bayonet should tuck into the top just fine."
Lesson: No Sound? Look down the well.
See No Sound - thanks to Joseph for this one.
Lesson: Battery Power?
see: Battery Power not recommendedThis message has been edited. Last edited by: ST,
Lesson: Packing it
Don't pack the Remote in the PS1 bag.
Lesson: Stiff Controls
If the knobs get stiff, you can pull them out a bit. Chances are they've just gotten jammed down during packing.
Lesson: Wiring it - Vocals on the Left
I always wire up the PowerStand so that the vocals are in Channel 1. This just means that it's always the same, easy to describe, and one less thing to wonder about.
Lesson: Wiring it - Two players
If you've got two players sharing a System, and hence the Remote, take a moment to wire things up so that the Channel strip that affects someone's sound is closest to them.
Lesson: Leave 'em hanging - NOT -
Here's and idea for a bracket you can mount on the mic stand. Sure, the velcro is fine but ...
See: Bracket for the Remote
Zipper sounds, latency - Hilmar speaks!
Daisy-Chain the Remotes?
No - Please don't try to connect more than one Remote to a Power Stand (or more than One Power Stand to a Remote)
See: Daisy Chain Remotes
Connecting the Remote - is it required?
If you power up the System without the Remote Connected, the PowerStand operates as though the Remote is connected with all controls straight-up (12 o'clock) position.
See: Connecting the Remote
The PS1 power stand continuously senses activity at all preset selectors and what is connected at the input/output jacks. In general, it is not recommended to operate without the remote connected. The PS1 power stand can however function without the R1 remote control. If you power the PS1 power stand on without the R1 remote control connected, it will operate as if the R1 remote control was connected and at a fixed setting of 12 o'clock (center position) on all the control knobs. Alternatively, if the unit is powered on with the R1 remote control first connected and the user then disconnects the R1 remote control, it will retain the last settings of the R1 remote control before you disconnected it. This is helpful in the case where sharing may be necessary.
Source: Official Bose FAQ
Lesson: Channel 1 and 2 Controls on the Remote don't mute the channels.
See it in context:
Volume Control on the Remote
- Channel 1/2 mute
- Connecting the Remote (thanks Chuck-at-Bose)This message has been edited. Last edited by: ST,
Steve-at-Bose shares tips and tricks
• Use the loop side of the Velcro sparingly. We gave you plenty so that you could put some in several locations (on both sides of the L1, your keys, your mic stand, etc.) and you’ll find that the hook is quite aggressive. It only takes a small strip, say 1” x 2”, to hold the remote.
• The bags are a bit tight when you first get them. They will “relax” over time.
• When the top section of the L1 is in its bag, there is room in there for the remote (knobs away from the L1 is best).
• If your remote gets “thumped” and a knob is hard to turn, you can pull it off and re-insert the knob. What’s happening is the bottom of the knob is rubbing on the cover of the remote.
• Put a piece of tape (or several) on your remote and mark where you like your settings (much like people do with stomp boxes) so that if they get turned by accident, you’ve got a mark of where you left it last. I’ve also seen people put a little dot of white out for this. Just remember, you probably want something that will be removable in case you change your mind. Then again, there’s always black paint to fix any boo-boo’s.
• Put your cables in the PS1 bag’s “outer sleeve”.
• The fuse will fit nicely in a couple of the recesses on the PS1 panel door. Tape it in one of the larger rectangles on the “channel 1 and 2 side” of the door. Now it’s always with your PS1.
• If the PS1 panel door pops off, pop it back in. It is designed to pop out during a “stepped-on-it” event, and is readily reattached.
• The Bose® logo on the grill of the B1 can be rotated. If you’re like me, and use the B1’s on their side and stacked, it looks nice with the Bose® going horizontally. The trick to rotating them, I’ve found, is to grab the “B” and “E” (not the tails) and pull straight out, then twist.
• Saving the nice packaging foam when the system arrives with is a good idea. It can be used in a hard-shell case if you decide to go that route at some point in the future.
• The L1 is slightly loose in its fit in the PS1. This is intentional so that it has some compliance when it gets bumped. As such, it is less likely to tip when someone accidentally pushes on it.
• And lastly, though I don't recommend you try, the socket in the PS1 where the L1 is placed can hold, and drain, pint of liquid.
See the original discussion
Bags for the L1
The Bayonet should not be removed from the top section of the L1. It is not necessary to remove the Bayonet to put the top section of the L1 into the bag.
The L1 doesn't really fit in the standard carry bag
Can I leave the PS1 in the bag while running it?
Is the PS1 bag washable?
For at least one person the answer is YesThis message has been edited. Last edited by: ST,
Deluxe Logo Bags
Clarification: There is a thread about the "free" upgrade to the Deluxe Logo Bags. This was during August 2004. These can still be purchased separately as an option. See: Accessories
quoting Steve-at-Bose talking about the Bose® Logo Bags
The PS1 bag: Yes, Steve Z you figured out the buckles on the PS1 (that was quick). I've got to warn folks though, the fit is *VERY* tight by design. Inserting the L1 bags in the panel pocket requires a fiar amount of fiddling. There are along list of reasons why we didn't make it loose (the major being if it's loose things get sloppy as you're wheeling the PS1 around with the L1's in place) so if you give this a try be warned ... it's a tight fit -- but it works.
We're not calling this a "feature" of the bag because candidly I don't think it meets the standards of quality and excellence you've come to expect from Bose. You can do it, but I'm warning you, it's not "beautiful". Once you get the L1's in the pockets, slip the buckle through the handle on the L1 bag and away you go.
I'm also worried about the handle on the PS1 bending and the "tippy-ness" of the PS1 when the L1's are in there. The handle is tough enough, but it may bend if you, for example, pull the system down a set of stairs with the L1's in the PS1 bag.
If you use this option, PLEASE use good judgement and don't let the bag sit unattended. It balances but it's tippy. And treat the handle well, especially when fully extended.
The L1 bag has two "saddle bags" down each side, great for cables, and we've made the bag longer so inserting the L1 is very easy. Each L1 bag comes with a shoulder strap that connects to the "D" ring on each end of the bag. And you can use the buckles to connect the two L1's together and use one shoulder strap for two L1's (but it's heavy at 30lbs or so). Or use the buckles to attach a mic stand (folding legs kind).
The B1 bag now goes all the way around (the best way to put the B1 in the bag is an "over the top and pull it down" with the bag versus "put this heavy square object into a flexible bag sitting on the floor". It has two "D" ring attachment points, but I doubt anyone will use a shoulder strap with it (it does not come with one). The B1 is not a fun thing to sling over your shoulder.
And the Back Pack is really nice. The firm that did the pack does work for surf/skate companies, and the big sneaker companies, and we said "make it top of the line" and it, IMO is really nice.
See the original discussionThis message has been edited. Last edited by: ST,
NEW: July 2006: What is Preset #58
NEW: March 2006: Get Plugged In - check out Ken-at-Bose talking about Presets in a mini video.
December 2005: Four new sets of Custom Instrument Presets
Q: I just got a new System, does it have the latest presets?
A: Quoting Kyle-at-Bose: "You can easily tell if you have one of the newer power stands- those that come preloaded with Presets 2.0- by looking at the rear I/O panel. If the Amp 3 Output connector area (where the B1s plug in) is a light blue color, then the Presets 2.0 have been preloaded at the factory."
Lesson: Finding what works
The captions beside the presets are recommendations and these are a good place to start.
Still, you want to do a little exploring. See:
Print your own copy!
See Upgrade Your Software to learn how to get the latest.
- and if at first you don't succeed -
Software Upgrade Troubleshooting
Preset 2.0 - Una panoramica - Italian - Thanks to Marco-at-Bose-Europe.
- NEW: March 2006: Get Plugged In - check out Ken-at-Bose talking about Presets in a mini video.
- Preset 2.0 - Una panoramica (Presets in Italian)
- Software Upgrade Troubleshooting
- Custom Instrument PresetsThis message has been edited. Last edited by: ST,
Ken-at-Bose talks about setting the gain for your microphone.
Reference from the Bose FAQs
What is the proper method for setting the gain on the PS1 power stand?
Owners - several of them talk about Gain Staging
General Principles from ST
Gain Notes from Chuck-at-Bose
Gain setup for a microphone
See the video on the main Bose site. Get Plugged InThis message has been edited. Last edited by: ST,
This one is copied in from my blog and describes how we have things organized for really quick and painless setup and teardown. Most of the my 'lessons' learned with respect to dealing with the physical aspects are covered here.
See: Setup: 5 Minutes
Unofficial Users' Guide (this document) in pdf format.
Let me apologize in advance, the PDF file looks a little rough as it is a 'capture' of various posts on this site. This doesn't turn out very well in Adobe Acrobat. Still, it is readable (sort of) and you can take your time and read it offline.
I'm still collecting information and until we got more, I will hold off formatting an offline document. Or, it may simpy make more sense to drop the offline document idea. Anyway, you can treat this as an experiment.This message has been edited. Last edited by: ST,
unnofficial050808.zip (364 Kb, 108 downloads)
Internal microphones (blender systems) and feedback:
You may have to turn off the internal microphone:
Not an an issue unique to the Bose Systems, but an issue when playing at significant volumes.
Acoustic Guitar and the Line6 Pod XTLive?
Check out the tips from Chuck-at-Bose
-- click the pic for the story ---
edit: Acoustic Guitar and the Line6 Pod XTLiveThis message has been edited. Last edited by: ST,
If you have a mixer in your setup you will want to read this how-to guide from Gittar-Jonz
Mixer Set up
This includes setting the trims, channel strips and other controls you will encounter.
Specific Model - Output Notes:
Mixers shown in this list are just ones where an owner has inquired about the connections. Inclusion in this list does not constitute a recommendation or endorsement.This message has been edited. Last edited by: ST,
To the uninitiated, connecting effects using the Insert Points on the Power Stand can be daunting.
Here are some notes for various devices.
Alesis NanoVerb/PicoVerb using Insert Point
VoiceLive (TC-Helicon) using Insert Point
Effects Connections 101 from Hilmar-at-Bose
Edit (added Hilmar's excellent discussion)This message has been edited. Last edited by: ST,
An earlier post of yours (
http://bose.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/150604105.../456107507#456107507 ) where you discuss the problems of adjacent louder players and close quarter sound shadows,
was very helpful to me in grasping reasons for relative placement of speakers and performers. I think it is worth including in this unoffical user's guide.
The discussion was called
Hearing One's Self with the Bose ...
In the early days of playing I had to remind myself of things like "let the amp do the heavy lifting" (instead of my fingers), so over the past little while I've come up with a few points that seem to be helping with the System. I'd really appreciate your comments on these little maxims I try to remember when setting up and playing.
-- more ---
I've been meaning to rewrite parts of my contributions there because I wrote it very early in my experiences with the System.
In the meantime, I'll add a link to it in the lead post above.
Like many others, this community is developing its own lexicon. Look for a few terms and quick references here.
Last time I looked at the numbers, we had around 150 discussions in the Illustrations section.
Here are a few that illustrate general principles.
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